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We all love laser guns (which are usually plasma weaponry) but why guns? It's not like we need the long barrel for making it more accurate or the stock to control recoil. So why guns and why not something else?










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    Long barrel and stock are parts of rifles. Guns have handle to keep in hand and barrel to aim.
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    Are you asking for (1) justification of the gun shape of the fictional laser gun, or (2) if future handheld laser weapons would actually be gun shaped?
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    You need to elaborate more on the question. Pure rhetorical and open questions like this are "too broad". There are dozens of answers and we cannot know which one is a better fit for the question if it is too vague.
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    @TylerS.Loeper ...or possibly OP is just asking why we use the word "gun" instead of "laser blaster" or some other word. Who knows? The question is vague and poorly defined.
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We all love laser guns (which are usually plasma weaponry) but why guns? It's not like we need the long barrel for making it more accurate or the stock to control recoil. So why guns and why not something else?










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    Long barrel and stock are parts of rifles. Guns have handle to keep in hand and barrel to aim.
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    9 hours ago






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    Are you asking for (1) justification of the gun shape of the fictional laser gun, or (2) if future handheld laser weapons would actually be gun shaped?
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    You need to elaborate more on the question. Pure rhetorical and open questions like this are "too broad". There are dozens of answers and we cannot know which one is a better fit for the question if it is too vague.
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  • projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/…
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    @TylerS.Loeper ...or possibly OP is just asking why we use the word "gun" instead of "laser blaster" or some other word. Who knows? The question is vague and poorly defined.
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We all love laser guns (which are usually plasma weaponry) but why guns? It's not like we need the long barrel for making it more accurate or the stock to control recoil. So why guns and why not something else?










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We all love laser guns (which are usually plasma weaponry) but why guns? It's not like we need the long barrel for making it more accurate or the stock to control recoil. So why guns and why not something else?







science-fiction weapons lasers






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    Long barrel and stock are parts of rifles. Guns have handle to keep in hand and barrel to aim.
    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    9 hours ago






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    Are you asking for (1) justification of the gun shape of the fictional laser gun, or (2) if future handheld laser weapons would actually be gun shaped?
    – Tyler S. Loeper
    8 hours ago








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    You need to elaborate more on the question. Pure rhetorical and open questions like this are "too broad". There are dozens of answers and we cannot know which one is a better fit for the question if it is too vague.
    – Mindwin
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  • projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/…
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    5 hours ago






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    @TylerS.Loeper ...or possibly OP is just asking why we use the word "gun" instead of "laser blaster" or some other word. Who knows? The question is vague and poorly defined.
    – J...
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    Long barrel and stock are parts of rifles. Guns have handle to keep in hand and barrel to aim.
    – SZCZERZO KŁY
    9 hours ago






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    Are you asking for (1) justification of the gun shape of the fictional laser gun, or (2) if future handheld laser weapons would actually be gun shaped?
    – Tyler S. Loeper
    8 hours ago








  • 3




    You need to elaborate more on the question. Pure rhetorical and open questions like this are "too broad". There are dozens of answers and we cannot know which one is a better fit for the question if it is too vague.
    – Mindwin
    6 hours ago










  • projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/…
    – Mephistopheles
    5 hours ago






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    @TylerS.Loeper ...or possibly OP is just asking why we use the word "gun" instead of "laser blaster" or some other word. Who knows? The question is vague and poorly defined.
    – J...
    4 hours ago








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Long barrel and stock are parts of rifles. Guns have handle to keep in hand and barrel to aim.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
9 hours ago




Long barrel and stock are parts of rifles. Guns have handle to keep in hand and barrel to aim.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
9 hours ago




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Are you asking for (1) justification of the gun shape of the fictional laser gun, or (2) if future handheld laser weapons would actually be gun shaped?
– Tyler S. Loeper
8 hours ago






Are you asking for (1) justification of the gun shape of the fictional laser gun, or (2) if future handheld laser weapons would actually be gun shaped?
– Tyler S. Loeper
8 hours ago






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You need to elaborate more on the question. Pure rhetorical and open questions like this are "too broad". There are dozens of answers and we cannot know which one is a better fit for the question if it is too vague.
– Mindwin
6 hours ago




You need to elaborate more on the question. Pure rhetorical and open questions like this are "too broad". There are dozens of answers and we cannot know which one is a better fit for the question if it is too vague.
– Mindwin
6 hours ago












projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/…
– Mephistopheles
5 hours ago




projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/…
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@TylerS.Loeper ...or possibly OP is just asking why we use the word "gun" instead of "laser blaster" or some other word. Who knows? The question is vague and poorly defined.
– J...
4 hours ago




@TylerS.Loeper ...or possibly OP is just asking why we use the word "gun" instead of "laser blaster" or some other word. Who knows? The question is vague and poorly defined.
– J...
4 hours ago










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It's an interesting question because our current laser guns look more like giant flat panels that fire invisible beams of heat at airplanes and torpedoes.



But those are aimed by computers. People need to use sights to aim. A longer barrel gives a more accurate sight and better control of the gun. It also allows the weapon to function like a bat in close fighting and could hold other attachments like grenade launchers or backup conventional rifles for when laser just won't work (like the Chinese mirror armor they developed in response to USA laser weapons).






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    The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
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  • Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
    – bruglesco
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    @AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
    – Trevor D
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    @TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
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The floppy disk 💾 is used (less so than five years ago, but used) as a save icon, even though outside of old industrial machines and nuclear missile silos, no one uses floppy disks. Your phone makes a shutter sound when you take a picture, despite not having a shutter. Electric cars are designed to look like gasoline vehicles in many ways that are utterly unnecessary, because it’s what people expect, and when something looks the way people expect, it makes them happy and comfortable and more likely to award your Laser Gun Company with the government contract for one million Pew Pew Guns. So your industrial designers make it look like a nice old fashioned projectile-throwing rifle, even if it doesn’t strictly need to.






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    I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
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I guess it is just for readers/viewers to be able to recognize in a fraction of a second that the character is holding a weapon that can hit at a distance.



To justify this would be so that military personnel doesn't need to adapt to a new way of fighting and can be even more efficient than before without the required formation time.
Then you still need batteries, plasma ammunition, electronics to handle the energy release, attachments and so on that make is as big as a classic gun.






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    Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
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    The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
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Cooling system



Longer, mean more cooling, mean more heat can be dissipated, mean more powerful laser / you can use it for a longer period of time



That might be unrealistic but in a sci-fi world, why not (imagine a new metal/cooling technology to miniaturize everything)






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  • That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
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A real futuristic personal laser weapon would probably sit on someones shoulder and the aim point would track whatever the user was looking at. It would not look like a gun at all.






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    Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
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    Watched Predator recently have we.
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  • this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
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To aim a weapon accurately, a long barrel is helpful. You also want to have some heft to dampen jitter (Photographers know that a light camera is harder to hold steady).



As well, you need some place to put all of the tech, even if you don't need a long lasing cavity you'll find some use for the volume. A short but thick device would be much less practical, for aiming as well as for carrying.



Of course the validity of all of these reasons depends entirely on the author's whim in a scifi setting. You coud have a short, giro stabilized hand gun with computer assisted aiming and nano components if you so please, but who wants to ruin a good trope?






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  • Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
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  • hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
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    Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
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It's an interesting question because our current laser guns look more like giant flat panels that fire invisible beams of heat at airplanes and torpedoes.



But those are aimed by computers. People need to use sights to aim. A longer barrel gives a more accurate sight and better control of the gun. It also allows the weapon to function like a bat in close fighting and could hold other attachments like grenade launchers or backup conventional rifles for when laser just won't work (like the Chinese mirror armor they developed in response to USA laser weapons).






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    It's not about the size of your rail attachment system, it's how you use it!
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    8 hours ago






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    The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
    – Mark Rogers
    7 hours ago










  • Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
    – bruglesco
    7 hours ago






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    @AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
    – Trevor D
    7 hours ago






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    @TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
    – Aziris Morora
    6 hours ago
















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It's an interesting question because our current laser guns look more like giant flat panels that fire invisible beams of heat at airplanes and torpedoes.



But those are aimed by computers. People need to use sights to aim. A longer barrel gives a more accurate sight and better control of the gun. It also allows the weapon to function like a bat in close fighting and could hold other attachments like grenade launchers or backup conventional rifles for when laser just won't work (like the Chinese mirror armor they developed in response to USA laser weapons).






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    It's not about the size of your rail attachment system, it's how you use it!
    – Joe Bloggs
    8 hours ago






  • 2




    The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
    – Mark Rogers
    7 hours ago










  • Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
    – bruglesco
    7 hours ago






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    @AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
    – Trevor D
    7 hours ago






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    @TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
    – Aziris Morora
    6 hours ago














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It's an interesting question because our current laser guns look more like giant flat panels that fire invisible beams of heat at airplanes and torpedoes.



But those are aimed by computers. People need to use sights to aim. A longer barrel gives a more accurate sight and better control of the gun. It also allows the weapon to function like a bat in close fighting and could hold other attachments like grenade launchers or backup conventional rifles for when laser just won't work (like the Chinese mirror armor they developed in response to USA laser weapons).






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It's an interesting question because our current laser guns look more like giant flat panels that fire invisible beams of heat at airplanes and torpedoes.



But those are aimed by computers. People need to use sights to aim. A longer barrel gives a more accurate sight and better control of the gun. It also allows the weapon to function like a bat in close fighting and could hold other attachments like grenade launchers or backup conventional rifles for when laser just won't work (like the Chinese mirror armor they developed in response to USA laser weapons).







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    It's not about the size of your rail attachment system, it's how you use it!
    – Joe Bloggs
    8 hours ago






  • 2




    The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
    – Mark Rogers
    7 hours ago










  • Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
    – bruglesco
    7 hours ago






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    @AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
    – Trevor D
    7 hours ago






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    @TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
    – Aziris Morora
    6 hours ago














  • 8




    It's not about the size of your rail attachment system, it's how you use it!
    – Joe Bloggs
    8 hours ago






  • 2




    The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
    – Mark Rogers
    7 hours ago










  • Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
    – bruglesco
    7 hours ago






  • 2




    @AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
    – Trevor D
    7 hours ago






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    @TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
    – Aziris Morora
    6 hours ago








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It's not about the size of your rail attachment system, it's how you use it!
– Joe Bloggs
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It's not about the size of your rail attachment system, it's how you use it!
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8 hours ago




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The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
– Mark Rogers
7 hours ago




The problem is that future warfare with advanced weapons maybe totally computer operated, rather than having stormtroopers running around with blasters.
– Mark Rogers
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Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
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Longer barrels in guns, especially rifles, are not for sighting but helping maintain a truer trajectory.
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@AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
– Trevor D
7 hours ago




@AzirisMorora I guess really the gun itself could fire a low power version to function as the targeting before it fires the lethal version.
– Trevor D
7 hours ago




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@TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
– Aziris Morora
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@TrevorD This is called laser designation, already used with AN-PEQ attachments and NV google :)
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The floppy disk 💾 is used (less so than five years ago, but used) as a save icon, even though outside of old industrial machines and nuclear missile silos, no one uses floppy disks. Your phone makes a shutter sound when you take a picture, despite not having a shutter. Electric cars are designed to look like gasoline vehicles in many ways that are utterly unnecessary, because it’s what people expect, and when something looks the way people expect, it makes them happy and comfortable and more likely to award your Laser Gun Company with the government contract for one million Pew Pew Guns. So your industrial designers make it look like a nice old fashioned projectile-throwing rifle, even if it doesn’t strictly need to.






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    I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
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    3 hours ago
















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The floppy disk 💾 is used (less so than five years ago, but used) as a save icon, even though outside of old industrial machines and nuclear missile silos, no one uses floppy disks. Your phone makes a shutter sound when you take a picture, despite not having a shutter. Electric cars are designed to look like gasoline vehicles in many ways that are utterly unnecessary, because it’s what people expect, and when something looks the way people expect, it makes them happy and comfortable and more likely to award your Laser Gun Company with the government contract for one million Pew Pew Guns. So your industrial designers make it look like a nice old fashioned projectile-throwing rifle, even if it doesn’t strictly need to.






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    I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
    – elemtilas
    3 hours ago














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The floppy disk 💾 is used (less so than five years ago, but used) as a save icon, even though outside of old industrial machines and nuclear missile silos, no one uses floppy disks. Your phone makes a shutter sound when you take a picture, despite not having a shutter. Electric cars are designed to look like gasoline vehicles in many ways that are utterly unnecessary, because it’s what people expect, and when something looks the way people expect, it makes them happy and comfortable and more likely to award your Laser Gun Company with the government contract for one million Pew Pew Guns. So your industrial designers make it look like a nice old fashioned projectile-throwing rifle, even if it doesn’t strictly need to.






share|improve this answer












User Expectation and Skeumorphic Design



The floppy disk 💾 is used (less so than five years ago, but used) as a save icon, even though outside of old industrial machines and nuclear missile silos, no one uses floppy disks. Your phone makes a shutter sound when you take a picture, despite not having a shutter. Electric cars are designed to look like gasoline vehicles in many ways that are utterly unnecessary, because it’s what people expect, and when something looks the way people expect, it makes them happy and comfortable and more likely to award your Laser Gun Company with the government contract for one million Pew Pew Guns. So your industrial designers make it look like a nice old fashioned projectile-throwing rifle, even if it doesn’t strictly need to.







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    I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
    – elemtilas
    3 hours ago














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    I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
    – elemtilas
    3 hours ago








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I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
– elemtilas
3 hours ago




I think you hit on the broad psychological phenomenon here. The "gun" is just a literary/theatrical icon for "weapon".
– elemtilas
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I guess it is just for readers/viewers to be able to recognize in a fraction of a second that the character is holding a weapon that can hit at a distance.



To justify this would be so that military personnel doesn't need to adapt to a new way of fighting and can be even more efficient than before without the required formation time.
Then you still need batteries, plasma ammunition, electronics to handle the energy release, attachments and so on that make is as big as a classic gun.






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    Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
    – Cadence
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    The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
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I guess it is just for readers/viewers to be able to recognize in a fraction of a second that the character is holding a weapon that can hit at a distance.



To justify this would be so that military personnel doesn't need to adapt to a new way of fighting and can be even more efficient than before without the required formation time.
Then you still need batteries, plasma ammunition, electronics to handle the energy release, attachments and so on that make is as big as a classic gun.






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    Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
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    The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
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I guess it is just for readers/viewers to be able to recognize in a fraction of a second that the character is holding a weapon that can hit at a distance.



To justify this would be so that military personnel doesn't need to adapt to a new way of fighting and can be even more efficient than before without the required formation time.
Then you still need batteries, plasma ammunition, electronics to handle the energy release, attachments and so on that make is as big as a classic gun.






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I guess it is just for readers/viewers to be able to recognize in a fraction of a second that the character is holding a weapon that can hit at a distance.



To justify this would be so that military personnel doesn't need to adapt to a new way of fighting and can be even more efficient than before without the required formation time.
Then you still need batteries, plasma ammunition, electronics to handle the energy release, attachments and so on that make is as big as a classic gun.







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    Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
    – Cadence
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  • 1




    The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
    – dwizum
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  • 6




    Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
    – Cadence
    6 hours ago








  • 1




    The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
    – dwizum
    5 hours ago








6




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Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
– Cadence
6 hours ago






Not just the viewers - the first season or so of Star Trek: the Next Generation used less gun-like phasers (affectionately known as "dustbusters" for their shape) that had to be phased out, no pun intended, because the actors couldn't reliably point them at their targets.
– Cadence
6 hours ago






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1




The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
– dwizum
5 hours ago




The TNG phasers were my first thought when reading this. They weren't gun-like, and they failed. From the perspective of getting an audience to accept a fictional element, it's less of a jump to use something they recognize. Answers trying to justify the rifle shape of "laser guns" are all based on our current tech/cultural framework, anyways. Which is why it's important to clarify the question - are we asking "why do most fictional universes portray them this way?" or are we asking "what might they actually be like in a "realistic" future fictional universe?"
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Cooling system



Longer, mean more cooling, mean more heat can be dissipated, mean more powerful laser / you can use it for a longer period of time



That might be unrealistic but in a sci-fi world, why not (imagine a new metal/cooling technology to miniaturize everything)






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  • That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
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Cooling system



Longer, mean more cooling, mean more heat can be dissipated, mean more powerful laser / you can use it for a longer period of time



That might be unrealistic but in a sci-fi world, why not (imagine a new metal/cooling technology to miniaturize everything)






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  • That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
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Cooling system



Longer, mean more cooling, mean more heat can be dissipated, mean more powerful laser / you can use it for a longer period of time



That might be unrealistic but in a sci-fi world, why not (imagine a new metal/cooling technology to miniaturize everything)






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Cooling system



Longer, mean more cooling, mean more heat can be dissipated, mean more powerful laser / you can use it for a longer period of time



That might be unrealistic but in a sci-fi world, why not (imagine a new metal/cooling technology to miniaturize everything)







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  • That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
    – Trevor D
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  • That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
    – Trevor D
    1 hour ago
















That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
– Trevor D
1 hour ago




That kind of works, unless you consider that the laser weapon still files straight without a barrel, and there is no need to dissipate heat from a barrel that doesn't exist. So it's kind of a solution to a problem that only exists because of your solution. Also longer would only usefully dissipate heat if the source of the heat was at the tip of the barrel, insulating the user from heat. So yeah longer dissipates heat, but did we need it dissipated from the barrel? I would expect the battery would be the heat problem.
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A real futuristic personal laser weapon would probably sit on someones shoulder and the aim point would track whatever the user was looking at. It would not look like a gun at all.






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    Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
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    Watched Predator recently have we.
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  • this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
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A real futuristic personal laser weapon would probably sit on someones shoulder and the aim point would track whatever the user was looking at. It would not look like a gun at all.






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    Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
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    Watched Predator recently have we.
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  • this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
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A real futuristic personal laser weapon would probably sit on someones shoulder and the aim point would track whatever the user was looking at. It would not look like a gun at all.






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  • 5




    Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
    – a CVn
    6 hours ago






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    Watched Predator recently have we.
    – Pelinore
    6 hours ago












  • this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
    – ths
    4 hours ago














  • 5




    Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
    – a CVn
    6 hours ago






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    Watched Predator recently have we.
    – Pelinore
    6 hours ago












  • this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
    – ths
    4 hours ago








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5




Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
– a CVn
6 hours ago




Why would it? You've proposed an alternative, but you don't really discuss why that alternative would be the most likely. Can you Edit to elaborate on the reasoning behind your answer?
– a CVn
6 hours ago




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Watched Predator recently have we.
– Pelinore
6 hours ago






Watched Predator recently have we.
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6 hours ago














this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
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this answers exactly the opposite question to the one posed.
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To aim a weapon accurately, a long barrel is helpful. You also want to have some heft to dampen jitter (Photographers know that a light camera is harder to hold steady).



As well, you need some place to put all of the tech, even if you don't need a long lasing cavity you'll find some use for the volume. A short but thick device would be much less practical, for aiming as well as for carrying.



Of course the validity of all of these reasons depends entirely on the author's whim in a scifi setting. You coud have a short, giro stabilized hand gun with computer assisted aiming and nano components if you so please, but who wants to ruin a good trope?






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  • Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
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    3 hours ago










  • hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
    – ths
    3 hours ago






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    Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
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To aim a weapon accurately, a long barrel is helpful. You also want to have some heft to dampen jitter (Photographers know that a light camera is harder to hold steady).



As well, you need some place to put all of the tech, even if you don't need a long lasing cavity you'll find some use for the volume. A short but thick device would be much less practical, for aiming as well as for carrying.



Of course the validity of all of these reasons depends entirely on the author's whim in a scifi setting. You coud have a short, giro stabilized hand gun with computer assisted aiming and nano components if you so please, but who wants to ruin a good trope?






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  • Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
    – WhatRoughBeast
    3 hours ago










  • hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
    – ths
    3 hours ago






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    Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
    – WhatRoughBeast
    3 hours ago
















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To aim a weapon accurately, a long barrel is helpful. You also want to have some heft to dampen jitter (Photographers know that a light camera is harder to hold steady).



As well, you need some place to put all of the tech, even if you don't need a long lasing cavity you'll find some use for the volume. A short but thick device would be much less practical, for aiming as well as for carrying.



Of course the validity of all of these reasons depends entirely on the author's whim in a scifi setting. You coud have a short, giro stabilized hand gun with computer assisted aiming and nano components if you so please, but who wants to ruin a good trope?






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To aim a weapon accurately, a long barrel is helpful. You also want to have some heft to dampen jitter (Photographers know that a light camera is harder to hold steady).



As well, you need some place to put all of the tech, even if you don't need a long lasing cavity you'll find some use for the volume. A short but thick device would be much less practical, for aiming as well as for carrying.



Of course the validity of all of these reasons depends entirely on the author's whim in a scifi setting. You coud have a short, giro stabilized hand gun with computer assisted aiming and nano components if you so please, but who wants to ruin a good trope?







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  • Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
    – WhatRoughBeast
    3 hours ago










  • hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
    – ths
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
    – WhatRoughBeast
    3 hours ago




















  • Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
    – WhatRoughBeast
    3 hours ago










  • hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
    – ths
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
    – WhatRoughBeast
    3 hours ago


















Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
– WhatRoughBeast
3 hours ago




Note that your aiming statement assumes "iron sights". Optical sights, such as the current ACOG, can do the job in a much shorter length.
– WhatRoughBeast
3 hours ago












hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
– ths
3 hours ago




hm, maybe optical sights arent such a good idea when your opponents point lasers at you?
– ths
3 hours ago




1




1




Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
– WhatRoughBeast
3 hours ago






Well, only for a very particular set of enemy lasers and powers. It would be better only if the optical gain of the optical sight brought enemy emissions over damage thresholds, and most low-power sights don't have all that much gain. Actually, it's perfectly possible to include band-reject filters in optical sights which would make them much safer than using iron sights and Mark I (unprotected) eyeballs.
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