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The matrix $A in M_3(mathbb{R})$ satisfy $A^t=A$ and $(1,2,1), (-1,1,0)$ are eigenvectors of $A$. Which vector is also an eigenvector of $A$?
Alternatives: $(0,0,1)$; $(1,1,-3)$; $(1,1,3)$; There is no other eigenvector.



The problem with this exercise is that I don't know the matrix $A$, and I don't have any eigenvalue to start with. I can get a matrix with less variables using $A = A^t$, but there's still 6 variables. Any tips or guidance is appreciated.










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    The matrix $A in M_3(mathbb{R})$ satisfy $A^t=A$ and $(1,2,1), (-1,1,0)$ are eigenvectors of $A$. Which vector is also an eigenvector of $A$?
    Alternatives: $(0,0,1)$; $(1,1,-3)$; $(1,1,3)$; There is no other eigenvector.



    The problem with this exercise is that I don't know the matrix $A$, and I don't have any eigenvalue to start with. I can get a matrix with less variables using $A = A^t$, but there's still 6 variables. Any tips or guidance is appreciated.










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      The matrix $A in M_3(mathbb{R})$ satisfy $A^t=A$ and $(1,2,1), (-1,1,0)$ are eigenvectors of $A$. Which vector is also an eigenvector of $A$?
      Alternatives: $(0,0,1)$; $(1,1,-3)$; $(1,1,3)$; There is no other eigenvector.



      The problem with this exercise is that I don't know the matrix $A$, and I don't have any eigenvalue to start with. I can get a matrix with less variables using $A = A^t$, but there's still 6 variables. Any tips or guidance is appreciated.










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      The matrix $A in M_3(mathbb{R})$ satisfy $A^t=A$ and $(1,2,1), (-1,1,0)$ are eigenvectors of $A$. Which vector is also an eigenvector of $A$?
      Alternatives: $(0,0,1)$; $(1,1,-3)$; $(1,1,3)$; There is no other eigenvector.



      The problem with this exercise is that I don't know the matrix $A$, and I don't have any eigenvalue to start with. I can get a matrix with less variables using $A = A^t$, but there's still 6 variables. Any tips or guidance is appreciated.







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          Since $A$ is symmetric, the eigenvectors (for distinct eigenvalues) are orthogonal.



          So, find which of the vectors is orthogonal to the first two.




          (1,1,-3) is.







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            I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
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            The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
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            @amd true. Good catch.
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            @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
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            @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
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          Hint: the condition $A^t = A$ allows you to use the spectral theorem.




          Hint: Specifically, the spectral theorem implies there is an orthonormal basis of eigenvectors of $A$.







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            $begingroup$

            Since $A$ is symmetric, the eigenvectors (for distinct eigenvalues) are orthogonal.



            So, find which of the vectors is orthogonal to the first two.




            (1,1,-3) is.







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              I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
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            • 1




              $begingroup$
              The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
              $endgroup$
              – amd
              46 mins ago










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              @amd true. Good catch.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
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              @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              30 mins ago












            • $begingroup$
              @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
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              – angryavian
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            $begingroup$

            Since $A$ is symmetric, the eigenvectors (for distinct eigenvalues) are orthogonal.



            So, find which of the vectors is orthogonal to the first two.




            (1,1,-3) is.







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              I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              53 mins ago






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
              $endgroup$
              – amd
              46 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @amd true. Good catch.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
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              @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              30 mins ago












            • $begingroup$
              @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
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              – angryavian
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            $begingroup$

            Since $A$ is symmetric, the eigenvectors (for distinct eigenvalues) are orthogonal.



            So, find which of the vectors is orthogonal to the first two.




            (1,1,-3) is.







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            Since $A$ is symmetric, the eigenvectors (for distinct eigenvalues) are orthogonal.



            So, find which of the vectors is orthogonal to the first two.




            (1,1,-3) is.








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              I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              53 mins ago






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
              $endgroup$
              – amd
              46 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @amd true. Good catch.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              40 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
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            • $begingroup$
              @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
              $endgroup$
              – angryavian
              9 mins ago


















            • $begingroup$
              I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              53 mins ago






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
              $endgroup$
              – amd
              46 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @amd true. Good catch.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              40 mins ago










            • $begingroup$
              @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
              $endgroup$
              – Chris Custer
              30 mins ago












            • $begingroup$
              @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
              $endgroup$
              – angryavian
              9 mins ago
















            $begingroup$
            I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
            $endgroup$
            – Chris Custer
            53 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            I think I need to rethink it. I'm leaning towards $(1,1,-3)$ because it's orthogonal to both. Will edit.
            $endgroup$
            – Chris Custer
            53 mins ago




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            $begingroup$
            The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
            $endgroup$
            – amd
            46 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            The other two could be eigenvectors. If so, the matrix would have to be a multiple of the identity, but I don’t see anything in the problem statement that would preclude this.
            $endgroup$
            – amd
            46 mins ago












            $begingroup$
            @amd true. Good catch.
            $endgroup$
            – Chris Custer
            40 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            @amd true. Good catch.
            $endgroup$
            – Chris Custer
            40 mins ago












            $begingroup$
            @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
            $endgroup$
            – Chris Custer
            30 mins ago






            $begingroup$
            @amd the orthogonal one must be an eigenvector though, if I'm not mistaken.
            $endgroup$
            – Chris Custer
            30 mins ago














            $begingroup$
            @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
            $endgroup$
            – angryavian
            9 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            @ChrisCuster Yeah the problem could probably have been better stated as "which vector is also necessarily an eigenvector"
            $endgroup$
            – angryavian
            9 mins ago











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            Hint: the condition $A^t = A$ allows you to use the spectral theorem.




            Hint: Specifically, the spectral theorem implies there is an orthonormal basis of eigenvectors of $A$.







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              Hint: the condition $A^t = A$ allows you to use the spectral theorem.




              Hint: Specifically, the spectral theorem implies there is an orthonormal basis of eigenvectors of $A$.







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                Hint: the condition $A^t = A$ allows you to use the spectral theorem.




                Hint: Specifically, the spectral theorem implies there is an orthonormal basis of eigenvectors of $A$.







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                Hint: the condition $A^t = A$ allows you to use the spectral theorem.




                Hint: Specifically, the spectral theorem implies there is an orthonormal basis of eigenvectors of $A$.








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