Why do BLDC motor (1 kW) controllers have so many MOSFETs?
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I have a 1 kW three-phase BLDC motor from China, and I was developing the controller myself. At 48 Vdc, the maximum current should be about 25 Amps and a peak current of 50 Amps for short durations.
However when I researched BLDC motor controllers, I came across 24-device MOSFET controllers which have four IRFB3607 MOSFETs per phase (4 x 6 = 24).
The IRFB3607 has an Id of 82 Amps at 25 °C and 56 Amps at 100 C. I can't figure out why controllers will be designed with four times the rated current. Keep in mind that these are cheap Chinese controllers.
Any ideas?
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I have a 1 kW three-phase BLDC motor from China, and I was developing the controller myself. At 48 Vdc, the maximum current should be about 25 Amps and a peak current of 50 Amps for short durations.
However when I researched BLDC motor controllers, I came across 24-device MOSFET controllers which have four IRFB3607 MOSFETs per phase (4 x 6 = 24).
The IRFB3607 has an Id of 82 Amps at 25 °C and 56 Amps at 100 C. I can't figure out why controllers will be designed with four times the rated current. Keep in mind that these are cheap Chinese controllers.
Any ideas?
mosfet brushless-dc-motor heat switching
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You should include a link to an example of mentioned BLDC controller.
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– Bimpelrekkie
16 hours ago
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Mosfets in parallel will reduce the effective Rds_on. Lower power dissipation in the controller and better efficiency.
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– Peter Karlsen
16 hours ago
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"24 tube Mosfet controllers" Tube?
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– winny
16 hours ago
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Stall current is also likely to be about 10x rated current or about 250A. 4 * 82A per phase sounds quite reasonable.
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– Brian Drummond
5 hours ago
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Consider how many MOSFETs are on a typical PC motherboard VRM. A high-end desktop board designed to cope with a heavily-overclocked 16+ core processor pulling upwards of 500W will have eight high-end MOSFETs at minimum, and possibly 12 to 16. When you look at it this way, a motor that can pull nearly 1 kW continuously needs similarly beefy power delivery.
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– bwDraco
1 hour ago
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I have a 1 kW three-phase BLDC motor from China, and I was developing the controller myself. At 48 Vdc, the maximum current should be about 25 Amps and a peak current of 50 Amps for short durations.
However when I researched BLDC motor controllers, I came across 24-device MOSFET controllers which have four IRFB3607 MOSFETs per phase (4 x 6 = 24).
The IRFB3607 has an Id of 82 Amps at 25 °C and 56 Amps at 100 C. I can't figure out why controllers will be designed with four times the rated current. Keep in mind that these are cheap Chinese controllers.
Any ideas?
mosfet brushless-dc-motor heat switching
edited 7 mins ago
Dwayne Reid
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I have a 1 kW three-phase BLDC motor from China, and I was developing the controller myself. At 48 Vdc, the maximum current should be about 25 Amps and a peak current of 50 Amps for short durations.
However when I researched BLDC motor controllers, I came across 24-device MOSFET controllers which have four IRFB3607 MOSFETs per phase (4 x 6 = 24).
The IRFB3607 has an Id of 82 Amps at 25 °C and 56 Amps at 100 C. I can't figure out why controllers will be designed with four times the rated current. Keep in mind that these are cheap Chinese controllers.
Any ideas?
mosfet brushless-dc-motor heat switching
mosfet brushless-dc-motor heat switching
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edited 7 mins ago
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You should include a link to an example of mentioned BLDC controller.
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– Bimpelrekkie
16 hours ago
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Mosfets in parallel will reduce the effective Rds_on. Lower power dissipation in the controller and better efficiency.
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– Peter Karlsen
16 hours ago
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"24 tube Mosfet controllers" Tube?
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– winny
16 hours ago
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Stall current is also likely to be about 10x rated current or about 250A. 4 * 82A per phase sounds quite reasonable.
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– Brian Drummond
5 hours ago
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Consider how many MOSFETs are on a typical PC motherboard VRM. A high-end desktop board designed to cope with a heavily-overclocked 16+ core processor pulling upwards of 500W will have eight high-end MOSFETs at minimum, and possibly 12 to 16. When you look at it this way, a motor that can pull nearly 1 kW continuously needs similarly beefy power delivery.
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– bwDraco
1 hour ago
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You should include a link to an example of mentioned BLDC controller.
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– Bimpelrekkie
16 hours ago
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Mosfets in parallel will reduce the effective Rds_on. Lower power dissipation in the controller and better efficiency.
$endgroup$
– Peter Karlsen
16 hours ago
3
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"24 tube Mosfet controllers" Tube?
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– winny
16 hours ago
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Stall current is also likely to be about 10x rated current or about 250A. 4 * 82A per phase sounds quite reasonable.
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– Brian Drummond
5 hours ago
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Consider how many MOSFETs are on a typical PC motherboard VRM. A high-end desktop board designed to cope with a heavily-overclocked 16+ core processor pulling upwards of 500W will have eight high-end MOSFETs at minimum, and possibly 12 to 16. When you look at it this way, a motor that can pull nearly 1 kW continuously needs similarly beefy power delivery.
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– bwDraco
1 hour ago
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You should include a link to an example of mentioned BLDC controller.
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– Bimpelrekkie
16 hours ago
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You should include a link to an example of mentioned BLDC controller.
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– Bimpelrekkie
16 hours ago
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Mosfets in parallel will reduce the effective Rds_on. Lower power dissipation in the controller and better efficiency.
$endgroup$
– Peter Karlsen
16 hours ago
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Mosfets in parallel will reduce the effective Rds_on. Lower power dissipation in the controller and better efficiency.
$endgroup$
– Peter Karlsen
16 hours ago
3
3
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"24 tube Mosfet controllers" Tube?
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– winny
16 hours ago
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"24 tube Mosfet controllers" Tube?
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– winny
16 hours ago
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Stall current is also likely to be about 10x rated current or about 250A. 4 * 82A per phase sounds quite reasonable.
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– Brian Drummond
5 hours ago
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Stall current is also likely to be about 10x rated current or about 250A. 4 * 82A per phase sounds quite reasonable.
$endgroup$
– Brian Drummond
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Consider how many MOSFETs are on a typical PC motherboard VRM. A high-end desktop board designed to cope with a heavily-overclocked 16+ core processor pulling upwards of 500W will have eight high-end MOSFETs at minimum, and possibly 12 to 16. When you look at it this way, a motor that can pull nearly 1 kW continuously needs similarly beefy power delivery.
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– bwDraco
1 hour ago
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Consider how many MOSFETs are on a typical PC motherboard VRM. A high-end desktop board designed to cope with a heavily-overclocked 16+ core processor pulling upwards of 500W will have eight high-end MOSFETs at minimum, and possibly 12 to 16. When you look at it this way, a motor that can pull nearly 1 kW continuously needs similarly beefy power delivery.
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– bwDraco
1 hour ago
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The reason to use multiple MOSFETs is to lower power dissipation resulting in a cheaper design.
Yes one MOSFET can handle the current but it will dissipate some power as it does have some resistance, typically 9 mohm for the IRFB3607.
At 25 A that means 25 A * 9 m ohm = 225 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 225 mV = 5.625 W of power dissipation
A heatsink for that would need to be substantial.
Now let's do the same calculation for 4 IRFB3607 in parallel:
Now 9 mohm is divided by 4 because of 4 parallel devices:
9 m ohm / 4 = 2.25 mohm
At 25 A that means 25 A * 2.25 m ohm = 56.25 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 56.25 mV = 1.41 W of power dissipation
That 1.41 W is for all MOSFETs together so less than 0.4 W per MOSFET which they can handle easily without any extra cooling.
Above calculation does not take into account that the 9 mohm Rdson will increase when the MOSFETs heat up. That makes the single MOSFET solution even more problematic as an even larger heatsink is required. The 4 MOSFET solution might "just manage" as it still has some margin (the 0.4 W could increase to 1 W and that would still be OK).
If 3 MOSFETs are cheaper than one heatsink (for dissipating 6 Watt) then the 4 MOSFET solution is cheaper.
Also production costs might be slightly lower for placing 4 MOSFETS compared to 1 MOSFET + Heatsink as the MOSFET has to be screwed or clamped to the heatsink, that's manual work so adds cost.
An added benefit is that reliability becomes better as those 4 MOSFETs are by far not "worked" as hard as a the single MOSFET.
Could we use a "4x" bigger, 2.25 mohm MOSFET?
Sure, if you can find it ! 9 mohm is quite low already. It gets increasingly difficult (and more expensive) to get lower as the influence of bonding wires comes into play. Also for sure four "middle of the road" MOSFETs are cheaper than one big fat MOSFET.
answered 15 hours ago
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Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
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– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
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@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
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– Chris H
14 hours ago
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You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
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– W5VO♦
13 hours ago
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@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
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– Mołot
13 hours ago
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@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
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The reason to use multiple MOSFETs is to lower power dissipation resulting in a cheaper design.
Yes one MOSFET can handle the current but it will dissipate some power as it does have some resistance, typically 9 mohm for the IRFB3607.
At 25 A that means 25 A * 9 m ohm = 225 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 225 mV = 5.625 W of power dissipation
A heatsink for that would need to be substantial.
Now let's do the same calculation for 4 IRFB3607 in parallel:
Now 9 mohm is divided by 4 because of 4 parallel devices:
9 m ohm / 4 = 2.25 mohm
At 25 A that means 25 A * 2.25 m ohm = 56.25 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 56.25 mV = 1.41 W of power dissipation
That 1.41 W is for all MOSFETs together so less than 0.4 W per MOSFET which they can handle easily without any extra cooling.
Above calculation does not take into account that the 9 mohm Rdson will increase when the MOSFETs heat up. That makes the single MOSFET solution even more problematic as an even larger heatsink is required. The 4 MOSFET solution might "just manage" as it still has some margin (the 0.4 W could increase to 1 W and that would still be OK).
If 3 MOSFETs are cheaper than one heatsink (for dissipating 6 Watt) then the 4 MOSFET solution is cheaper.
Also production costs might be slightly lower for placing 4 MOSFETS compared to 1 MOSFET + Heatsink as the MOSFET has to be screwed or clamped to the heatsink, that's manual work so adds cost.
An added benefit is that reliability becomes better as those 4 MOSFETs are by far not "worked" as hard as a the single MOSFET.
Could we use a "4x" bigger, 2.25 mohm MOSFET?
Sure, if you can find it ! 9 mohm is quite low already. It gets increasingly difficult (and more expensive) to get lower as the influence of bonding wires comes into play. Also for sure four "middle of the road" MOSFETs are cheaper than one big fat MOSFET.
answered 15 hours ago
BimpelrekkieBimpelrekkie
49.4k241111
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Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
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– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
2
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@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
$endgroup$
– Chris H
14 hours ago
2
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You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
$endgroup$
– W5VO♦
13 hours ago
5
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@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
$endgroup$
– Mołot
13 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
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– Mołot
12 hours ago
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The reason to use multiple MOSFETs is to lower power dissipation resulting in a cheaper design.
Yes one MOSFET can handle the current but it will dissipate some power as it does have some resistance, typically 9 mohm for the IRFB3607.
At 25 A that means 25 A * 9 m ohm = 225 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 225 mV = 5.625 W of power dissipation
A heatsink for that would need to be substantial.
Now let's do the same calculation for 4 IRFB3607 in parallel:
Now 9 mohm is divided by 4 because of 4 parallel devices:
9 m ohm / 4 = 2.25 mohm
At 25 A that means 25 A * 2.25 m ohm = 56.25 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 56.25 mV = 1.41 W of power dissipation
That 1.41 W is for all MOSFETs together so less than 0.4 W per MOSFET which they can handle easily without any extra cooling.
Above calculation does not take into account that the 9 mohm Rdson will increase when the MOSFETs heat up. That makes the single MOSFET solution even more problematic as an even larger heatsink is required. The 4 MOSFET solution might "just manage" as it still has some margin (the 0.4 W could increase to 1 W and that would still be OK).
If 3 MOSFETs are cheaper than one heatsink (for dissipating 6 Watt) then the 4 MOSFET solution is cheaper.
Also production costs might be slightly lower for placing 4 MOSFETS compared to 1 MOSFET + Heatsink as the MOSFET has to be screwed or clamped to the heatsink, that's manual work so adds cost.
An added benefit is that reliability becomes better as those 4 MOSFETs are by far not "worked" as hard as a the single MOSFET.
Could we use a "4x" bigger, 2.25 mohm MOSFET?
Sure, if you can find it ! 9 mohm is quite low already. It gets increasingly difficult (and more expensive) to get lower as the influence of bonding wires comes into play. Also for sure four "middle of the road" MOSFETs are cheaper than one big fat MOSFET.
answered 15 hours ago
BimpelrekkieBimpelrekkie
49.4k241111
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3
$begingroup$
Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
$endgroup$
– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
$endgroup$
– Chris H
14 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
$endgroup$
– W5VO♦
13 hours ago
5
$begingroup$
@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
$endgroup$
– Mołot
13 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
12 hours ago
|
show 7 more comments
$begingroup$
The reason to use multiple MOSFETs is to lower power dissipation resulting in a cheaper design.
Yes one MOSFET can handle the current but it will dissipate some power as it does have some resistance, typically 9 mohm for the IRFB3607.
At 25 A that means 25 A * 9 m ohm = 225 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 225 mV = 5.625 W of power dissipation
A heatsink for that would need to be substantial.
Now let's do the same calculation for 4 IRFB3607 in parallel:
Now 9 mohm is divided by 4 because of 4 parallel devices:
9 m ohm / 4 = 2.25 mohm
At 25 A that means 25 A * 2.25 m ohm = 56.25 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 56.25 mV = 1.41 W of power dissipation
That 1.41 W is for all MOSFETs together so less than 0.4 W per MOSFET which they can handle easily without any extra cooling.
Above calculation does not take into account that the 9 mohm Rdson will increase when the MOSFETs heat up. That makes the single MOSFET solution even more problematic as an even larger heatsink is required. The 4 MOSFET solution might "just manage" as it still has some margin (the 0.4 W could increase to 1 W and that would still be OK).
If 3 MOSFETs are cheaper than one heatsink (for dissipating 6 Watt) then the 4 MOSFET solution is cheaper.
Also production costs might be slightly lower for placing 4 MOSFETS compared to 1 MOSFET + Heatsink as the MOSFET has to be screwed or clamped to the heatsink, that's manual work so adds cost.
An added benefit is that reliability becomes better as those 4 MOSFETs are by far not "worked" as hard as a the single MOSFET.
Could we use a "4x" bigger, 2.25 mohm MOSFET?
Sure, if you can find it ! 9 mohm is quite low already. It gets increasingly difficult (and more expensive) to get lower as the influence of bonding wires comes into play. Also for sure four "middle of the road" MOSFETs are cheaper than one big fat MOSFET.
answered 15 hours ago
BimpelrekkieBimpelrekkie
49.4k241111
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The reason to use multiple MOSFETs is to lower power dissipation resulting in a cheaper design.
Yes one MOSFET can handle the current but it will dissipate some power as it does have some resistance, typically 9 mohm for the IRFB3607.
At 25 A that means 25 A * 9 m ohm = 225 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 225 mV = 5.625 W of power dissipation
A heatsink for that would need to be substantial.
Now let's do the same calculation for 4 IRFB3607 in parallel:
Now 9 mohm is divided by 4 because of 4 parallel devices:
9 m ohm / 4 = 2.25 mohm
At 25 A that means 25 A * 2.25 m ohm = 56.25 mV drop
At 25 A that means 25 A * 56.25 mV = 1.41 W of power dissipation
That 1.41 W is for all MOSFETs together so less than 0.4 W per MOSFET which they can handle easily without any extra cooling.
Above calculation does not take into account that the 9 mohm Rdson will increase when the MOSFETs heat up. That makes the single MOSFET solution even more problematic as an even larger heatsink is required. The 4 MOSFET solution might "just manage" as it still has some margin (the 0.4 W could increase to 1 W and that would still be OK).
If 3 MOSFETs are cheaper than one heatsink (for dissipating 6 Watt) then the 4 MOSFET solution is cheaper.
Also production costs might be slightly lower for placing 4 MOSFETS compared to 1 MOSFET + Heatsink as the MOSFET has to be screwed or clamped to the heatsink, that's manual work so adds cost.
An added benefit is that reliability becomes better as those 4 MOSFETs are by far not "worked" as hard as a the single MOSFET.
Could we use a "4x" bigger, 2.25 mohm MOSFET?
Sure, if you can find it ! 9 mohm is quite low already. It gets increasingly difficult (and more expensive) to get lower as the influence of bonding wires comes into play. Also for sure four "middle of the road" MOSFETs are cheaper than one big fat MOSFET.
answered 15 hours ago
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Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
$endgroup$
– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
$endgroup$
– Chris H
14 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
$endgroup$
– W5VO♦
13 hours ago
5
$begingroup$
@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
$endgroup$
– Mołot
13 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
$endgroup$
– Mołot
12 hours ago
|
show 7 more comments
3
$begingroup$
Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
$endgroup$
– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
$endgroup$
– Chris H
14 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
$endgroup$
– W5VO♦
13 hours ago
5
$begingroup$
@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
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– Mołot
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@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
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– Mołot
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Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
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– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
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Also a saving on the cost of electricity over the lifetime of the system.
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– Ian Ringrose
14 hours ago
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@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
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– Chris H
14 hours ago
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@IanRingrose I doubt the designer cares much about that because they don't pay the electricity bill
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– Chris H
14 hours ago
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You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
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– W5VO♦
13 hours ago
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You also get more passive cooling from having the power dissipated spread over a larger area (4 parts and their required board space)
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– W5VO♦
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@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
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– Mołot
13 hours ago
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@ChrisH but buyer pays electricity bill, and designer cares about his design to sell well. Or at least should care...
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– Mołot
13 hours ago
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@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
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– Mołot
12 hours ago
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@ChrisH going "green" and educing carbon footprint is fashionable now, so marketing departments of such companies are more and more interested indeed - even if percentage is quite low, it increases. Similar for private users. Don't have any statistics. From my point of view this trend is visible, even if it's negligible overall.
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– Mołot
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You should include a link to an example of mentioned BLDC controller.
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– Bimpelrekkie
16 hours ago
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Mosfets in parallel will reduce the effective Rds_on. Lower power dissipation in the controller and better efficiency.
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– Peter Karlsen
16 hours ago
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"24 tube Mosfet controllers" Tube?
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– winny
16 hours ago
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Stall current is also likely to be about 10x rated current or about 250A. 4 * 82A per phase sounds quite reasonable.
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– Brian Drummond
5 hours ago
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Consider how many MOSFETs are on a typical PC motherboard VRM. A high-end desktop board designed to cope with a heavily-overclocked 16+ core processor pulling upwards of 500W will have eight high-end MOSFETs at minimum, and possibly 12 to 16. When you look at it this way, a motor that can pull nearly 1 kW continuously needs similarly beefy power delivery.
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– bwDraco
1 hour ago