Does `arp-scan` not work well in a wifi created by a hotspot?
When I use a wifi hotspot, sometimes I can't use sudo arp-scan -l
to see other devices (except the hotspot), but sometimes I can see another laptop, but I never see another android phone. (The hotspot is borrowed from a public library, and the first hotspot I have ever used, so I don't know about it but guess its model is Alcatel Mw41 based on its appearance.)
When I use a router, most always I can see the other two devices (sometimes not).
I was wondering if a hotspot works differently, or arp-scan
doesn't work sometimes?
Thanks.
wifi wifi-hotspot arp
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When I use a wifi hotspot, sometimes I can't use sudo arp-scan -l
to see other devices (except the hotspot), but sometimes I can see another laptop, but I never see another android phone. (The hotspot is borrowed from a public library, and the first hotspot I have ever used, so I don't know about it but guess its model is Alcatel Mw41 based on its appearance.)
When I use a router, most always I can see the other two devices (sometimes not).
I was wondering if a hotspot works differently, or arp-scan
doesn't work sometimes?
Thanks.
wifi wifi-hotspot arp
Is the connection encrypted (WPA, WPA2)? If yes, you won't see other devices, unless they broadcast or multicast, because all communication is between each client and the AP.
– dirkt
5 hours ago
Thanks. Both wifi networks are WPA2. But I can see other devices in the router's wifi, not in the hotspot's wifi.
– Tim
1 hour ago
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When I use a wifi hotspot, sometimes I can't use sudo arp-scan -l
to see other devices (except the hotspot), but sometimes I can see another laptop, but I never see another android phone. (The hotspot is borrowed from a public library, and the first hotspot I have ever used, so I don't know about it but guess its model is Alcatel Mw41 based on its appearance.)
When I use a router, most always I can see the other two devices (sometimes not).
I was wondering if a hotspot works differently, or arp-scan
doesn't work sometimes?
Thanks.
wifi wifi-hotspot arp
When I use a wifi hotspot, sometimes I can't use sudo arp-scan -l
to see other devices (except the hotspot), but sometimes I can see another laptop, but I never see another android phone. (The hotspot is borrowed from a public library, and the first hotspot I have ever used, so I don't know about it but guess its model is Alcatel Mw41 based on its appearance.)
When I use a router, most always I can see the other two devices (sometimes not).
I was wondering if a hotspot works differently, or arp-scan
doesn't work sometimes?
Thanks.
wifi wifi-hotspot arp
wifi wifi-hotspot arp
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Tim
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Is the connection encrypted (WPA, WPA2)? If yes, you won't see other devices, unless they broadcast or multicast, because all communication is between each client and the AP.
– dirkt
5 hours ago
Thanks. Both wifi networks are WPA2. But I can see other devices in the router's wifi, not in the hotspot's wifi.
– Tim
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Is the connection encrypted (WPA, WPA2)? If yes, you won't see other devices, unless they broadcast or multicast, because all communication is between each client and the AP.
– dirkt
5 hours ago
Thanks. Both wifi networks are WPA2. But I can see other devices in the router's wifi, not in the hotspot's wifi.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Is the connection encrypted (WPA, WPA2)? If yes, you won't see other devices, unless they broadcast or multicast, because all communication is between each client and the AP.
– dirkt
5 hours ago
Is the connection encrypted (WPA, WPA2)? If yes, you won't see other devices, unless they broadcast or multicast, because all communication is between each client and the AP.
– dirkt
5 hours ago
Thanks. Both wifi networks are WPA2. But I can see other devices in the router's wifi, not in the hotspot's wifi.
– Tim
1 hour ago
Thanks. Both wifi networks are WPA2. But I can see other devices in the router's wifi, not in the hotspot's wifi.
– Tim
1 hour ago
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In several implementations of wireless APs either domestic or enterprise, you can choose whether or not you can allow the clients from talking with each other.
If that security measure is enabled, the clients will be only able to talk with the AP/the outside networks, but not with other clients under the same network/AP/controller.
From the top of my head, an examples, OpenWRT, Cisco and Meru allow to configure whether that happens (or not). It is a pretty common technology on several brands.
As an example, From the OpenWRT page
LEDE/OpenWRT — Setting Up Client Isolation
Client Isolation is a security feature that prevents wireless clients
on that network from interacting with each other, which can be enabled
on networks in AP mode.
In Enterprise Cisco parlance, it is know as "Peer-to-Peer Blocking"
From Cisco Wireless LAN Controller Configuration Guide
Peer-to-peer blocking is applied to individual WLANs, and each client
inherits the peer-to-peer blocking setting of the WLAN to which it is
associated. Peer-to-Peer enables you to have more control over how
traffic is directed. For example, you can choose to have traffic
bridged locally within the controller, dropped by the controller, or
forwarded to the upstream VLAN.
Peer-to-peer blocking is supported for clients that are associated
with the local switching WLAN.
Also, I could found some vague references the Alcatel family of models the OP/@Tim is mentioning calling it "Denying inter user traffic"
PS. I have enabled client isolation in my OpenWRT at home. Back in my former job, we also enabled this "feature" in wide-area campus network of Meru aka Fortinet APs.
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In several implementations of wireless APs either domestic or enterprise, you can choose whether or not you can allow the clients from talking with each other.
If that security measure is enabled, the clients will be only able to talk with the AP/the outside networks, but not with other clients under the same network/AP/controller.
From the top of my head, an examples, OpenWRT, Cisco and Meru allow to configure whether that happens (or not). It is a pretty common technology on several brands.
As an example, From the OpenWRT page
LEDE/OpenWRT — Setting Up Client Isolation
Client Isolation is a security feature that prevents wireless clients
on that network from interacting with each other, which can be enabled
on networks in AP mode.
In Enterprise Cisco parlance, it is know as "Peer-to-Peer Blocking"
From Cisco Wireless LAN Controller Configuration Guide
Peer-to-peer blocking is applied to individual WLANs, and each client
inherits the peer-to-peer blocking setting of the WLAN to which it is
associated. Peer-to-Peer enables you to have more control over how
traffic is directed. For example, you can choose to have traffic
bridged locally within the controller, dropped by the controller, or
forwarded to the upstream VLAN.
Peer-to-peer blocking is supported for clients that are associated
with the local switching WLAN.
Also, I could found some vague references the Alcatel family of models the OP/@Tim is mentioning calling it "Denying inter user traffic"
PS. I have enabled client isolation in my OpenWRT at home. Back in my former job, we also enabled this "feature" in wide-area campus network of Meru aka Fortinet APs.
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In several implementations of wireless APs either domestic or enterprise, you can choose whether or not you can allow the clients from talking with each other.
If that security measure is enabled, the clients will be only able to talk with the AP/the outside networks, but not with other clients under the same network/AP/controller.
From the top of my head, an examples, OpenWRT, Cisco and Meru allow to configure whether that happens (or not). It is a pretty common technology on several brands.
As an example, From the OpenWRT page
LEDE/OpenWRT — Setting Up Client Isolation
Client Isolation is a security feature that prevents wireless clients
on that network from interacting with each other, which can be enabled
on networks in AP mode.
In Enterprise Cisco parlance, it is know as "Peer-to-Peer Blocking"
From Cisco Wireless LAN Controller Configuration Guide
Peer-to-peer blocking is applied to individual WLANs, and each client
inherits the peer-to-peer blocking setting of the WLAN to which it is
associated. Peer-to-Peer enables you to have more control over how
traffic is directed. For example, you can choose to have traffic
bridged locally within the controller, dropped by the controller, or
forwarded to the upstream VLAN.
Peer-to-peer blocking is supported for clients that are associated
with the local switching WLAN.
Also, I could found some vague references the Alcatel family of models the OP/@Tim is mentioning calling it "Denying inter user traffic"
PS. I have enabled client isolation in my OpenWRT at home. Back in my former job, we also enabled this "feature" in wide-area campus network of Meru aka Fortinet APs.
add a comment |
In several implementations of wireless APs either domestic or enterprise, you can choose whether or not you can allow the clients from talking with each other.
If that security measure is enabled, the clients will be only able to talk with the AP/the outside networks, but not with other clients under the same network/AP/controller.
From the top of my head, an examples, OpenWRT, Cisco and Meru allow to configure whether that happens (or not). It is a pretty common technology on several brands.
As an example, From the OpenWRT page
LEDE/OpenWRT — Setting Up Client Isolation
Client Isolation is a security feature that prevents wireless clients
on that network from interacting with each other, which can be enabled
on networks in AP mode.
In Enterprise Cisco parlance, it is know as "Peer-to-Peer Blocking"
From Cisco Wireless LAN Controller Configuration Guide
Peer-to-peer blocking is applied to individual WLANs, and each client
inherits the peer-to-peer blocking setting of the WLAN to which it is
associated. Peer-to-Peer enables you to have more control over how
traffic is directed. For example, you can choose to have traffic
bridged locally within the controller, dropped by the controller, or
forwarded to the upstream VLAN.
Peer-to-peer blocking is supported for clients that are associated
with the local switching WLAN.
Also, I could found some vague references the Alcatel family of models the OP/@Tim is mentioning calling it "Denying inter user traffic"
PS. I have enabled client isolation in my OpenWRT at home. Back in my former job, we also enabled this "feature" in wide-area campus network of Meru aka Fortinet APs.
In several implementations of wireless APs either domestic or enterprise, you can choose whether or not you can allow the clients from talking with each other.
If that security measure is enabled, the clients will be only able to talk with the AP/the outside networks, but not with other clients under the same network/AP/controller.
From the top of my head, an examples, OpenWRT, Cisco and Meru allow to configure whether that happens (or not). It is a pretty common technology on several brands.
As an example, From the OpenWRT page
LEDE/OpenWRT — Setting Up Client Isolation
Client Isolation is a security feature that prevents wireless clients
on that network from interacting with each other, which can be enabled
on networks in AP mode.
In Enterprise Cisco parlance, it is know as "Peer-to-Peer Blocking"
From Cisco Wireless LAN Controller Configuration Guide
Peer-to-peer blocking is applied to individual WLANs, and each client
inherits the peer-to-peer blocking setting of the WLAN to which it is
associated. Peer-to-Peer enables you to have more control over how
traffic is directed. For example, you can choose to have traffic
bridged locally within the controller, dropped by the controller, or
forwarded to the upstream VLAN.
Peer-to-peer blocking is supported for clients that are associated
with the local switching WLAN.
Also, I could found some vague references the Alcatel family of models the OP/@Tim is mentioning calling it "Denying inter user traffic"
PS. I have enabled client isolation in my OpenWRT at home. Back in my former job, we also enabled this "feature" in wide-area campus network of Meru aka Fortinet APs.
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Is the connection encrypted (WPA, WPA2)? If yes, you won't see other devices, unless they broadcast or multicast, because all communication is between each client and the AP.
– dirkt
5 hours ago
Thanks. Both wifi networks are WPA2. But I can see other devices in the router's wifi, not in the hotspot's wifi.
– Tim
1 hour ago