Why can't I delete my files?





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I copied some files from a data DVD to /home/emma (ext4), and all of the files are read only.



This is what all of the files are like:



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
File: ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’
Size: 28120 Blocks: 56 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 656521 Links: 1
Access: (0400/-r--------) Uid: ( 1000/ emma) Gid: ( 1000/ emma)
Access: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Modify: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Change: 2015-02-01 23:11:04.226865424 +0000
Birth: -


When I try to delete them, I get rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied, even though I'm the owner. Changing the mode to 777 doesn't work either. The only thing that works is deleting them as root, using sudo.



I thought only an i attribute made files unable to be deleted by their owner, so what's going on?



I'm using Xubuntu 14.10.



Results of various commands:



(Please note: I created directory cd myself, and then copied directory Drivers to it from the DVD.)



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 cd

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd/Drivers
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 cd/Drivers

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-r-------- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 660 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rw-rw---- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 777 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rwxrwxrwx 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ lsattr cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-------------e-- cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -alh cd/Drivers
total 48K
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 .
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 ..
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 01Chipset
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 02Video
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 03Lan
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 04CReader
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 05Touchpad
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 06Airplane
dr-x------ 2 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 07Hotkey
dr-x------ 12 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 08IME
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 09Audio
-r-------- 1 emma emma 162 Feb 24 2012 ~$ivers_List.rtf


(I've already deleted cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf using sudo as a test.)










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  • What does grep /home /etc/mtab say, just for completeness' sake?

    – Ulrich Schwarz
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:01











  • grep /home /etc/mtab returns no matches.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:22






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    What are the permissions on the cd and Drivers directories?

    – terdon
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:33











  • How come you run stat Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf but the output is for cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf? What is the relationship between the two?

    – a CVn
    Feb 2 '15 at 18:59











  • @MichaelKjörling: I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 22:05


















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I copied some files from a data DVD to /home/emma (ext4), and all of the files are read only.



This is what all of the files are like:



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
File: ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’
Size: 28120 Blocks: 56 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 656521 Links: 1
Access: (0400/-r--------) Uid: ( 1000/ emma) Gid: ( 1000/ emma)
Access: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Modify: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Change: 2015-02-01 23:11:04.226865424 +0000
Birth: -


When I try to delete them, I get rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied, even though I'm the owner. Changing the mode to 777 doesn't work either. The only thing that works is deleting them as root, using sudo.



I thought only an i attribute made files unable to be deleted by their owner, so what's going on?



I'm using Xubuntu 14.10.



Results of various commands:



(Please note: I created directory cd myself, and then copied directory Drivers to it from the DVD.)



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 cd

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd/Drivers
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 cd/Drivers

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-r-------- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 660 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rw-rw---- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 777 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rwxrwxrwx 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ lsattr cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-------------e-- cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -alh cd/Drivers
total 48K
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 .
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 ..
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 01Chipset
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 02Video
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 03Lan
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 04CReader
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 05Touchpad
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 06Airplane
dr-x------ 2 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 07Hotkey
dr-x------ 12 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 08IME
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 09Audio
-r-------- 1 emma emma 162 Feb 24 2012 ~$ivers_List.rtf


(I've already deleted cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf using sudo as a test.)










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  • What does grep /home /etc/mtab say, just for completeness' sake?

    – Ulrich Schwarz
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:01











  • grep /home /etc/mtab returns no matches.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:22






  • 3





    What are the permissions on the cd and Drivers directories?

    – terdon
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:33











  • How come you run stat Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf but the output is for cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf? What is the relationship between the two?

    – a CVn
    Feb 2 '15 at 18:59











  • @MichaelKjörling: I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 22:05














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I copied some files from a data DVD to /home/emma (ext4), and all of the files are read only.



This is what all of the files are like:



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
File: ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’
Size: 28120 Blocks: 56 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 656521 Links: 1
Access: (0400/-r--------) Uid: ( 1000/ emma) Gid: ( 1000/ emma)
Access: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Modify: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Change: 2015-02-01 23:11:04.226865424 +0000
Birth: -


When I try to delete them, I get rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied, even though I'm the owner. Changing the mode to 777 doesn't work either. The only thing that works is deleting them as root, using sudo.



I thought only an i attribute made files unable to be deleted by their owner, so what's going on?



I'm using Xubuntu 14.10.



Results of various commands:



(Please note: I created directory cd myself, and then copied directory Drivers to it from the DVD.)



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 cd

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd/Drivers
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 cd/Drivers

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-r-------- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 660 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rw-rw---- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 777 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rwxrwxrwx 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ lsattr cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-------------e-- cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -alh cd/Drivers
total 48K
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 .
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 ..
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 01Chipset
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 02Video
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 03Lan
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 04CReader
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 05Touchpad
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 06Airplane
dr-x------ 2 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 07Hotkey
dr-x------ 12 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 08IME
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 09Audio
-r-------- 1 emma emma 162 Feb 24 2012 ~$ivers_List.rtf


(I've already deleted cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf using sudo as a test.)










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I copied some files from a data DVD to /home/emma (ext4), and all of the files are read only.



This is what all of the files are like:



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
File: ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’
Size: 28120 Blocks: 56 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 801h/2049d Inode: 656521 Links: 1
Access: (0400/-r--------) Uid: ( 1000/ emma) Gid: ( 1000/ emma)
Access: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Modify: 2014-01-17 05:34:46.000000000 +0000
Change: 2015-02-01 23:11:04.226865424 +0000
Birth: -


When I try to delete them, I get rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied, even though I'm the owner. Changing the mode to 777 doesn't work either. The only thing that works is deleting them as root, using sudo.



I thought only an i attribute made files unable to be deleted by their owner, so what's going on?



I'm using Xubuntu 14.10.



Results of various commands:



(Please note: I created directory cd myself, and then copied directory Drivers to it from the DVD.)



emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 cd

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -dlh cd/Drivers
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 cd/Drivers

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-r-------- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 660 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rw-rw---- 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ chmod 777 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -l cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-rwxrwxrwx 1 emma emma 28120 Jan 17 2014 cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ rm cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
rm: cannot remove ‘cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf’: Permission denied

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ lsattr cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf
-------------e-- cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf

emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ ls -alh cd/Drivers
total 48K
dr-x------ 11 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 02:15 .
drwxrwxr-x 3 emma emma 4.0K Feb 3 01:44 ..
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 01Chipset
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 02Video
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 03Lan
dr-x------ 9 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 04CReader
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 05Touchpad
dr-x------ 3 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 06Airplane
dr-x------ 2 emma emma 4.0K Jan 17 2014 07Hotkey
dr-x------ 12 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 08IME
dr-x------ 7 emma emma 4.0K Jan 14 2014 09Audio
-r-------- 1 emma emma 162 Feb 24 2012 ~$ivers_List.rtf


(I've already deleted cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf using sudo as a test.)







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  • What does grep /home /etc/mtab say, just for completeness' sake?

    – Ulrich Schwarz
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:01











  • grep /home /etc/mtab returns no matches.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:22






  • 3





    What are the permissions on the cd and Drivers directories?

    – terdon
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:33











  • How come you run stat Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf but the output is for cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf? What is the relationship between the two?

    – a CVn
    Feb 2 '15 at 18:59











  • @MichaelKjörling: I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 22:05



















  • What does grep /home /etc/mtab say, just for completeness' sake?

    – Ulrich Schwarz
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:01











  • grep /home /etc/mtab returns no matches.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:22






  • 3





    What are the permissions on the cd and Drivers directories?

    – terdon
    Feb 2 '15 at 17:33











  • How come you run stat Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf but the output is for cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf? What is the relationship between the two?

    – a CVn
    Feb 2 '15 at 18:59











  • @MichaelKjörling: I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 22:05

















What does grep /home /etc/mtab say, just for completeness' sake?

– Ulrich Schwarz
Feb 2 '15 at 17:01





What does grep /home /etc/mtab say, just for completeness' sake?

– Ulrich Schwarz
Feb 2 '15 at 17:01













grep /home /etc/mtab returns no matches.

– EmmaV
Feb 2 '15 at 17:22





grep /home /etc/mtab returns no matches.

– EmmaV
Feb 2 '15 at 17:22




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What are the permissions on the cd and Drivers directories?

– terdon
Feb 2 '15 at 17:33





What are the permissions on the cd and Drivers directories?

– terdon
Feb 2 '15 at 17:33













How come you run stat Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf but the output is for cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf? What is the relationship between the two?

– a CVn
Feb 2 '15 at 18:59





How come you run stat Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf but the output is for cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf? What is the relationship between the two?

– a CVn
Feb 2 '15 at 18:59













@MichaelKjörling: I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake.

– EmmaV
Feb 2 '15 at 22:05





@MichaelKjörling: I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake.

– EmmaV
Feb 2 '15 at 22:05










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I believe some additional information is necessary for a certain answer, but I would suspect the issue is simply permissions related. I'm guessing either you accidentally copied symlinks over instead of the real files, or you're trying to delete the entire directory but haven't reset permissions on all the files within.



First things first, when you stat the file it gives a path of 'cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf', which seems to be different than the directory you're referencing in your commands. Can you confirm that you copied the files instead of creating symlinks? Providing the results of these three commands would be very useful in seeing what's going on:




  • ls -alhd /home/emma/cd

  • ls -alhd /home/emma/Drivers

  • ls -alh /home/emma/Drivers


Second, please attempt the following to see if you can remove a single file from the collection:




  • chmod 660 "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"

  • rm "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"


Let us know how that goes, and provide any errors you receive!






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  • Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

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    Feb 2 '15 at 22:18













  • I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

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    Feb 3 '15 at 2:39













  • Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

    – immortal squish
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As you're working on a ext4 filesystem it could be possible that those files have the inmutable attribute enabled. You should check it with lsattr. Ex:



antonio@PC1:~/antonio/borrar$ lsattr undelete 
-u--i--------e-- undelete





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  • Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 22:12



















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Try doing:



sudo rm path/to/file


if you cant do that then try



sudo rm -r path/to/file





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  • Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

    – EmmaV
    Feb 2 '15 at 22:10











  • because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

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    Feb 3 '15 at 2:02



















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I've found the answer myself here.



Because cd/Drivers is read-only, only root can delete from it.






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    I was about to answer with the issue being you're trying to remove a read-only file inside of a directory you have write permissions on.



    Try resetting the permissions on the folder recursively with chmod -R 700 /home/emma/cd



    It'll be from when you copied preserving permissions inside of MC.






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      I believe some additional information is necessary for a certain answer, but I would suspect the issue is simply permissions related. I'm guessing either you accidentally copied symlinks over instead of the real files, or you're trying to delete the entire directory but haven't reset permissions on all the files within.



      First things first, when you stat the file it gives a path of 'cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf', which seems to be different than the directory you're referencing in your commands. Can you confirm that you copied the files instead of creating symlinks? Providing the results of these three commands would be very useful in seeing what's going on:




      • ls -alhd /home/emma/cd

      • ls -alhd /home/emma/Drivers

      • ls -alh /home/emma/Drivers


      Second, please attempt the following to see if you can remove a single file from the collection:




      • chmod 660 "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"

      • rm "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"


      Let us know how that goes, and provide any errors you receive!






      share|improve this answer
























      • Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:18













      • I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:39













      • Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

        – immortal squish
        Feb 3 '15 at 20:55
















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      I believe some additional information is necessary for a certain answer, but I would suspect the issue is simply permissions related. I'm guessing either you accidentally copied symlinks over instead of the real files, or you're trying to delete the entire directory but haven't reset permissions on all the files within.



      First things first, when you stat the file it gives a path of 'cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf', which seems to be different than the directory you're referencing in your commands. Can you confirm that you copied the files instead of creating symlinks? Providing the results of these three commands would be very useful in seeing what's going on:




      • ls -alhd /home/emma/cd

      • ls -alhd /home/emma/Drivers

      • ls -alh /home/emma/Drivers


      Second, please attempt the following to see if you can remove a single file from the collection:




      • chmod 660 "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"

      • rm "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"


      Let us know how that goes, and provide any errors you receive!






      share|improve this answer
























      • Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:18













      • I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:39













      • Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

        – immortal squish
        Feb 3 '15 at 20:55














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      I believe some additional information is necessary for a certain answer, but I would suspect the issue is simply permissions related. I'm guessing either you accidentally copied symlinks over instead of the real files, or you're trying to delete the entire directory but haven't reset permissions on all the files within.



      First things first, when you stat the file it gives a path of 'cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf', which seems to be different than the directory you're referencing in your commands. Can you confirm that you copied the files instead of creating symlinks? Providing the results of these three commands would be very useful in seeing what's going on:




      • ls -alhd /home/emma/cd

      • ls -alhd /home/emma/Drivers

      • ls -alh /home/emma/Drivers


      Second, please attempt the following to see if you can remove a single file from the collection:




      • chmod 660 "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"

      • rm "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"


      Let us know how that goes, and provide any errors you receive!






      share|improve this answer













      I believe some additional information is necessary for a certain answer, but I would suspect the issue is simply permissions related. I'm guessing either you accidentally copied symlinks over instead of the real files, or you're trying to delete the entire directory but haven't reset permissions on all the files within.



      First things first, when you stat the file it gives a path of 'cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf', which seems to be different than the directory you're referencing in your commands. Can you confirm that you copied the files instead of creating symlinks? Providing the results of these three commands would be very useful in seeing what's going on:




      • ls -alhd /home/emma/cd

      • ls -alhd /home/emma/Drivers

      • ls -alh /home/emma/Drivers


      Second, please attempt the following to see if you can remove a single file from the collection:




      • chmod 660 "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"

      • rm "/home/emma/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf"


      Let us know how that goes, and provide any errors you receive!







      share|improve this answer












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      answered Feb 2 '15 at 17:34









      immortal squishimmortal squish

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      • Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:18













      • I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:39













      • Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

        – immortal squish
        Feb 3 '15 at 20:55



















      • Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:18













      • I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:39













      • Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

        – immortal squish
        Feb 3 '15 at 20:55

















      Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 2 '15 at 22:18







      Thanks. Regarding the path discrepancy, I forgot to copy the emma@emma-W54-55SU1-SUW:~$ stat cd/Drivers/Drivers_List.rtf line, so I added it in later, but I omitted the cd/ part by mistake. Regarding symlinks, yes I am 100% certain that I copied files and not symlinks. I used Midnight Commander, with 'Preserve attributes' checked. I'll try what you suggested and report back when I get a chance.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 2 '15 at 22:18















      I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 3 '15 at 2:39







      I've added all of the results of the commands now. I've also discovered that not even chmod 777 makes them able to be deleted, so I must have made a mistake the first time.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 3 '15 at 2:39















      Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

      – immortal squish
      Feb 3 '15 at 20:55





      Ah, I see. Took a bit of looking, but I believe doing a chmod u+w -R ~/cd will do the trick for you. To delete a file, you need write permissions to the directory that file is in, not just the file itself (ref: stackoverflow.com/questions/8175697/… and unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49638/…)

      – immortal squish
      Feb 3 '15 at 20:55













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      As you're working on a ext4 filesystem it could be possible that those files have the inmutable attribute enabled. You should check it with lsattr. Ex:



      antonio@PC1:~/antonio/borrar$ lsattr undelete 
      -u--i--------e-- undelete





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      • Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:12
















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      As you're working on a ext4 filesystem it could be possible that those files have the inmutable attribute enabled. You should check it with lsattr. Ex:



      antonio@PC1:~/antonio/borrar$ lsattr undelete 
      -u--i--------e-- undelete





      share|improve this answer
























      • Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:12














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      As you're working on a ext4 filesystem it could be possible that those files have the inmutable attribute enabled. You should check it with lsattr. Ex:



      antonio@PC1:~/antonio/borrar$ lsattr undelete 
      -u--i--------e-- undelete





      share|improve this answer













      As you're working on a ext4 filesystem it could be possible that those files have the inmutable attribute enabled. You should check it with lsattr. Ex:



      antonio@PC1:~/antonio/borrar$ lsattr undelete 
      -u--i--------e-- undelete






      share|improve this answer












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      answered Feb 2 '15 at 21:21









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      • Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:12



















      • Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:12

















      Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 2 '15 at 22:12





      Thanks for your suggestion, but they aren't immutable. If they were, I wouldn't have been able to delete them using sudo.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 2 '15 at 22:12











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      Try doing:



      sudo rm path/to/file


      if you cant do that then try



      sudo rm -r path/to/file





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      • Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:10











      • because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

        – Viraj Shah
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:02
















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      Try doing:



      sudo rm path/to/file


      if you cant do that then try



      sudo rm -r path/to/file





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      • Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:10











      • because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

        – Viraj Shah
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:02














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      Try doing:



      sudo rm path/to/file


      if you cant do that then try



      sudo rm -r path/to/file





      share|improve this answer













      Try doing:



      sudo rm path/to/file


      if you cant do that then try



      sudo rm -r path/to/file






      share|improve this answer












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      answered Feb 2 '15 at 21:48









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      • Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:10











      • because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

        – Viraj Shah
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:02



















      • Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

        – EmmaV
        Feb 2 '15 at 22:10











      • because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

        – Viraj Shah
        Feb 3 '15 at 2:02

















      Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 2 '15 at 22:10





      Thanks for the suggestion. I already stated that sudo works. What I'm asking is why I can't delete the files without using sudo when I'm the owner.

      – EmmaV
      Feb 2 '15 at 22:10













      because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

      – Viraj Shah
      Feb 3 '15 at 2:02





      because when talking about computers, the computer does know who the actual owner is, but everything saved on your account of the computer, you are the owner of. Anything from or copied from another place (other than the web), will always have different permissions.

      – Viraj Shah
      Feb 3 '15 at 2:02











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      I've found the answer myself here.



      Because cd/Drivers is read-only, only root can delete from it.






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        I've found the answer myself here.



        Because cd/Drivers is read-only, only root can delete from it.






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          I've found the answer myself here.



          Because cd/Drivers is read-only, only root can delete from it.






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          I've found the answer myself here.



          Because cd/Drivers is read-only, only root can delete from it.







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              I was about to answer with the issue being you're trying to remove a read-only file inside of a directory you have write permissions on.



              Try resetting the permissions on the folder recursively with chmod -R 700 /home/emma/cd



              It'll be from when you copied preserving permissions inside of MC.






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                I was about to answer with the issue being you're trying to remove a read-only file inside of a directory you have write permissions on.



                Try resetting the permissions on the folder recursively with chmod -R 700 /home/emma/cd



                It'll be from when you copied preserving permissions inside of MC.






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                  I was about to answer with the issue being you're trying to remove a read-only file inside of a directory you have write permissions on.



                  Try resetting the permissions on the folder recursively with chmod -R 700 /home/emma/cd



                  It'll be from when you copied preserving permissions inside of MC.






                  share|improve this answer















                  I was about to answer with the issue being you're trying to remove a read-only file inside of a directory you have write permissions on.



                  Try resetting the permissions on the folder recursively with chmod -R 700 /home/emma/cd



                  It'll be from when you copied preserving permissions inside of MC.







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