A Very Illegal Position












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It's been a while since I've done a chess puzzle, so here's one!



This position is illegal in quite a lot of ways:



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It's illegal in at least 10 ways. The first one to find all of the ways this position is illegal (it's 10 or more, I know exactly how many) gets the check and +1 from me.



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  • i assume you mean for us to find the illegal ways and not the legal ways
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    @AHKieran fixed that little typo :P
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  • It might help if you had a more specific definition of what a "way the position is illegal" consists of. I think I'm using a different definition, which is why I can only find 8.
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It's been a while since I've done a chess puzzle, so here's one!



This position is illegal in quite a lot of ways:



enter image description here



It's illegal in at least 10 ways. The first one to find all of the ways this position is illegal (it's 10 or more, I know exactly how many) gets the check and +1 from me.



Good luck and happy puzzling!










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  • i assume you mean for us to find the illegal ways and not the legal ways
    – AHKieran
    11 hours ago






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    @AHKieran fixed that little typo :P
    – Excited Raichu
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  • It might help if you had a more specific definition of what a "way the position is illegal" consists of. I think I'm using a different definition, which is why I can only find 8.
    – isaacg
    3 hours ago














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It's been a while since I've done a chess puzzle, so here's one!



This position is illegal in quite a lot of ways:



enter image description here



It's illegal in at least 10 ways. The first one to find all of the ways this position is illegal (it's 10 or more, I know exactly how many) gets the check and +1 from me.



Good luck and happy puzzling!










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It's been a while since I've done a chess puzzle, so here's one!



This position is illegal in quite a lot of ways:



enter image description here



It's illegal in at least 10 ways. The first one to find all of the ways this position is illegal (it's 10 or more, I know exactly how many) gets the check and +1 from me.



Good luck and happy puzzling!







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  • i assume you mean for us to find the illegal ways and not the legal ways
    – AHKieran
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @AHKieran fixed that little typo :P
    – Excited Raichu
    11 hours ago










  • It might help if you had a more specific definition of what a "way the position is illegal" consists of. I think I'm using a different definition, which is why I can only find 8.
    – isaacg
    3 hours ago


















  • i assume you mean for us to find the illegal ways and not the legal ways
    – AHKieran
    11 hours ago






  • 1




    @AHKieran fixed that little typo :P
    – Excited Raichu
    11 hours ago










  • It might help if you had a more specific definition of what a "way the position is illegal" consists of. I think I'm using a different definition, which is why I can only find 8.
    – isaacg
    3 hours ago
















i assume you mean for us to find the illegal ways and not the legal ways
– AHKieran
11 hours ago




i assume you mean for us to find the illegal ways and not the legal ways
– AHKieran
11 hours ago




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@AHKieran fixed that little typo :P
– Excited Raichu
11 hours ago




@AHKieran fixed that little typo :P
– Excited Raichu
11 hours ago












It might help if you had a more specific definition of what a "way the position is illegal" consists of. I think I'm using a different definition, which is why I can only find 8.
– isaacg
3 hours ago




It might help if you had a more specific definition of what a "way the position is illegal" consists of. I think I'm using a different definition, which is why I can only find 8.
– isaacg
3 hours ago










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Both kings are in check.




2.




The black king is in check by both the Rc3 and Bg4.




3.




The white bishop on b1 can only arrive there via a2 and c2, and there are white pawns on a2 and c2 which can't have moved.




4.




Black has nine pawns.




5.




White has two light-squared bishops; one must have been promoted but White has still eight pawns.




6.




White's pawns seem to have captured three times (b-pawn to d5, d-pawn to e3), but Black's only missing piece is a single knight. Also, the f7 pawn can only get there via captures (unless the black f6 pawn somehow dropped out of thin air, see 4.)




7.




There's no way for the black rook which started on h8 to escape (to either b6 or a1).






I'm not sure I can find more; for example,




it will be hard for the Ra1 to reach that square, but once you assume the Bb1 materialized out of thin air (see 3.), it's not a problem anymore.




Also,




the black pawns are 7 columns 'away' from their home squares, but if you assume the g3 has been dropped there, only 4 captures are required to account for the a- and b-pawns, and there are four white pieces missing (two knights, a rook and the queen).




A pitfall:




the white king can be put in check this way; Black's last move could have been Nh4+ (discovered check)




Note that




some of these irregularities could happen during a game of bughouse.







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  • rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
    – Bass
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  • True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
    – Glorfindel
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1. bishop in g4 in check

2. rook in c3 in check

3. bishop in f3 in check

4. rook in a1 cant get there

5. 9 black pawns

6. pawn in a3 cant get there

7. pawn in g3 cant get there

8. pawn in f7 cant get there

9. 2 white bishop on white squares

10. pawn in e3 cant get there

11. bishop in b1 cant get there







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    Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
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Here's my 10 (I didn't look at anyone else's answers, honest)



1.




Nine black pawns.




2.




Black's h8 rook could not have left rank 8, yet black has two rooks, entailing a promotion from a tenth black pawn!




3.




Black pawns have made at least five captures, e.g. cxbxa3 and dxexfxg3, but White is missing only four units (queen, rook and two knights)




4.




Black's check with the bishop on f3 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by Black, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 3.




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White pawns have made at least three captures towards the kingside, e.g. bxcxd5 and dxe3. Moreover, two captures fxexf or fxgxf are needed to put a white pawn on f7. However, even if we remove a black pawn, black is missing only one unit (a rook).




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White's check with the bishop on g4 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by White, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 5.




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White's bishop on g4 and rook on c3 are giving an impossible double check.




8.




4. and 6. mean both kings are in check at the same time.




9.




White bishop on b1, though it wasn't born there and couldn't have moved there.




10.




White has two bishops on white squares but has eight pawns and thus has no promoted pieces.







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    I'm not sure how you're counting, but here's my answer. Possibly an incomplete answer.



    1.




    Both kings are in check.




    2.




    The black king is in check from two pieces.




    3.




    There are 9 black pawns. Removing the one at g3 makes the pawns at a3 and b2 valid via capturing white officers.




    4.




    There are not enough captured black pieces for the white pawns to be in those positions. The f7 pawn in particular is in a suspicious location, though this pawn configuration is possible if there were enough black officers to capture.




    5.




    The white bishop on b1 is in an impossible location.




    6.




    The white bishops are both on white squares, but all of the pawns are present.




    7.




    The black rook at a1 is in an impossible location... Sort of. It would be possible via promotion, but there already too many black pawns for that to be possible.




    8.




    There should be a black rook in the upper-right corner because there's no way it could get out with the bishop at f8.




    That's all I see. I might be lumping together multiple items by your count into one.






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      I only managed to find 10 so far, here it is:




      1. White bishop in B1. It's not possible in a normal game.

      2. Two white bishops in the white square, while still having 8 pawns.

      3. Black Rook in A1. It's not possible in a normal game.

      4. Black Rook going out from H8 while Bishop hasn't moved from F8.

      5. White Rook missing from A1. Stolen and replaced by black rook? :P

      6. Black pawn totaling 9. It was supposed to be only 8 in a game.

      7. White king under check, while black king also in check.

      8. Black king under two different check, from Rook in C3 and Bishop on G4

      9. White pawn structure. It just simply weird to have a pawn on F7, D5 while also having a pawn on E3, while black only missing a knight.

      10. Both kings is under check, is simply impossible.







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        1. Black has 9 pawns.




        2.




        Both kings are in check.




        3.




        The black king is in double check. This can only happen if one of the checking pieces shielded the opponent king from the other prior to the check. This is not possible with the took on c3 and the bishop on h4.




        4.




        The white bishop on b1 could never have reached this field with the white pawns on a2, c2.




        5.




        White has two bishops on white fields. This can only happen after a pawn has been promoted. White however still has their complete set of 8 pawns.




        6.




        With white pawns on the e and g files and a black pawn on f6, the white pawn on f7 can reach this field only with at least 2 captures. However, black has lost only 1 piece and all pawns (in fact even one surplus pawn, he. item 1), thus never had a promoted piece.




        7.




        White's pawn structure implies at least 5 captures (bxc, cxd; dxe; fxe, exf) but black has lost a single piece only and no promotion so far (cf. item 6)




        8.




        With black pawns on e7,f6,g7,h7 and a black bishop on f8, the black rook initially on h8 could only have reached the field g8.




        9.




        The black king is in check so white moved last. Since the white bishop on h4 can only move along the diagonal to c8 the black king must have been in check before the move; or black put itself into check by illegally moving a pinned piece; or white moved a different piece to open the diagonal, but white does not have a piece that could have moved this way [not sure if this counts though as the checking situation is impossible in the first place, cf. items 2 & 3]




        10.




        Black is in an 'impossible' double check and puts white in check (cf. items 2 & 3). That can only happen if black doesn't move out of a check, thus playing illegally.







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          1.




          Both kings are in check.




          2.




          The black king is in check by both the Rc3 and Bg4.




          3.




          The white bishop on b1 can only arrive there via a2 and c2, and there are white pawns on a2 and c2 which can't have moved.




          4.




          Black has nine pawns.




          5.




          White has two light-squared bishops; one must have been promoted but White has still eight pawns.




          6.




          White's pawns seem to have captured three times (b-pawn to d5, d-pawn to e3), but Black's only missing piece is a single knight. Also, the f7 pawn can only get there via captures (unless the black f6 pawn somehow dropped out of thin air, see 4.)




          7.




          There's no way for the black rook which started on h8 to escape (to either b6 or a1).






          I'm not sure I can find more; for example,




          it will be hard for the Ra1 to reach that square, but once you assume the Bb1 materialized out of thin air (see 3.), it's not a problem anymore.




          Also,




          the black pawns are 7 columns 'away' from their home squares, but if you assume the g3 has been dropped there, only 4 captures are required to account for the a- and b-pawns, and there are four white pieces missing (two knights, a rook and the queen).




          A pitfall:




          the white king can be put in check this way; Black's last move could have been Nh4+ (discovered check)




          Note that




          some of these irregularities could happen during a game of bughouse.







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          • rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
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          • True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
            – Glorfindel
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          1.




          Both kings are in check.




          2.




          The black king is in check by both the Rc3 and Bg4.




          3.




          The white bishop on b1 can only arrive there via a2 and c2, and there are white pawns on a2 and c2 which can't have moved.




          4.




          Black has nine pawns.




          5.




          White has two light-squared bishops; one must have been promoted but White has still eight pawns.




          6.




          White's pawns seem to have captured three times (b-pawn to d5, d-pawn to e3), but Black's only missing piece is a single knight. Also, the f7 pawn can only get there via captures (unless the black f6 pawn somehow dropped out of thin air, see 4.)




          7.




          There's no way for the black rook which started on h8 to escape (to either b6 or a1).






          I'm not sure I can find more; for example,




          it will be hard for the Ra1 to reach that square, but once you assume the Bb1 materialized out of thin air (see 3.), it's not a problem anymore.




          Also,




          the black pawns are 7 columns 'away' from their home squares, but if you assume the g3 has been dropped there, only 4 captures are required to account for the a- and b-pawns, and there are four white pieces missing (two knights, a rook and the queen).




          A pitfall:




          the white king can be put in check this way; Black's last move could have been Nh4+ (discovered check)




          Note that




          some of these irregularities could happen during a game of bughouse.







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          • rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
            – Bass
            11 hours ago










          • True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
            – Glorfindel
            11 hours ago














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          1.




          Both kings are in check.




          2.




          The black king is in check by both the Rc3 and Bg4.




          3.




          The white bishop on b1 can only arrive there via a2 and c2, and there are white pawns on a2 and c2 which can't have moved.




          4.




          Black has nine pawns.




          5.




          White has two light-squared bishops; one must have been promoted but White has still eight pawns.




          6.




          White's pawns seem to have captured three times (b-pawn to d5, d-pawn to e3), but Black's only missing piece is a single knight. Also, the f7 pawn can only get there via captures (unless the black f6 pawn somehow dropped out of thin air, see 4.)




          7.




          There's no way for the black rook which started on h8 to escape (to either b6 or a1).






          I'm not sure I can find more; for example,




          it will be hard for the Ra1 to reach that square, but once you assume the Bb1 materialized out of thin air (see 3.), it's not a problem anymore.




          Also,




          the black pawns are 7 columns 'away' from their home squares, but if you assume the g3 has been dropped there, only 4 captures are required to account for the a- and b-pawns, and there are four white pieces missing (two knights, a rook and the queen).




          A pitfall:




          the white king can be put in check this way; Black's last move could have been Nh4+ (discovered check)




          Note that




          some of these irregularities could happen during a game of bughouse.







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          1.




          Both kings are in check.




          2.




          The black king is in check by both the Rc3 and Bg4.




          3.




          The white bishop on b1 can only arrive there via a2 and c2, and there are white pawns on a2 and c2 which can't have moved.




          4.




          Black has nine pawns.




          5.




          White has two light-squared bishops; one must have been promoted but White has still eight pawns.




          6.




          White's pawns seem to have captured three times (b-pawn to d5, d-pawn to e3), but Black's only missing piece is a single knight. Also, the f7 pawn can only get there via captures (unless the black f6 pawn somehow dropped out of thin air, see 4.)




          7.




          There's no way for the black rook which started on h8 to escape (to either b6 or a1).






          I'm not sure I can find more; for example,




          it will be hard for the Ra1 to reach that square, but once you assume the Bb1 materialized out of thin air (see 3.), it's not a problem anymore.




          Also,




          the black pawns are 7 columns 'away' from their home squares, but if you assume the g3 has been dropped there, only 4 captures are required to account for the a- and b-pawns, and there are four white pieces missing (two knights, a rook and the queen).




          A pitfall:




          the white king can be put in check this way; Black's last move could have been Nh4+ (discovered check)




          Note that




          some of these irregularities could happen during a game of bughouse.








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          • rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
            – Bass
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          • True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
            – Glorfindel
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          • rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
            – Bass
            11 hours ago










          • True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
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          rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
          – Bass
          11 hours ago




          rook h8 could have been captured by a white knight, though
          – Bass
          11 hours ago












          True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
          – Glorfindel
          11 hours ago




          True, but that would require another promoted black pawn.
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          1. bishop in g4 in check

          2. rook in c3 in check

          3. bishop in f3 in check

          4. rook in a1 cant get there

          5. 9 black pawns

          6. pawn in a3 cant get there

          7. pawn in g3 cant get there

          8. pawn in f7 cant get there

          9. 2 white bishop on white squares

          10. pawn in e3 cant get there

          11. bishop in b1 cant get there







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            Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
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          1. bishop in g4 in check

          2. rook in c3 in check

          3. bishop in f3 in check

          4. rook in a1 cant get there

          5. 9 black pawns

          6. pawn in a3 cant get there

          7. pawn in g3 cant get there

          8. pawn in f7 cant get there

          9. 2 white bishop on white squares

          10. pawn in e3 cant get there

          11. bishop in b1 cant get there







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            Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
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          1. bishop in g4 in check

          2. rook in c3 in check

          3. bishop in f3 in check

          4. rook in a1 cant get there

          5. 9 black pawns

          6. pawn in a3 cant get there

          7. pawn in g3 cant get there

          8. pawn in f7 cant get there

          9. 2 white bishop on white squares

          10. pawn in e3 cant get there

          11. bishop in b1 cant get there







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          1. bishop in g4 in check

          2. rook in c3 in check

          3. bishop in f3 in check

          4. rook in a1 cant get there

          5. 9 black pawns

          6. pawn in a3 cant get there

          7. pawn in g3 cant get there

          8. pawn in f7 cant get there

          9. 2 white bishop on white squares

          10. pawn in e3 cant get there

          11. bishop in b1 cant get there








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            Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
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            Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
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          Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
          – Nuclear Wang
          11 hours ago




          Your #4 and #12 are the same. The A3 pawn could have come from the C column by capturing twice, same goes for G3 from the D column, although since black is only missing 2 pieces, one of these must be illegal.
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          Here's my 10 (I didn't look at anyone else's answers, honest)



          1.




          Nine black pawns.




          2.




          Black's h8 rook could not have left rank 8, yet black has two rooks, entailing a promotion from a tenth black pawn!




          3.




          Black pawns have made at least five captures, e.g. cxbxa3 and dxexfxg3, but White is missing only four units (queen, rook and two knights)




          4.




          Black's check with the bishop on f3 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by Black, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 3.




          5.




          White pawns have made at least three captures towards the kingside, e.g. bxcxd5 and dxe3. Moreover, two captures fxexf or fxgxf are needed to put a white pawn on f7. However, even if we remove a black pawn, black is missing only one unit (a rook).




          6.




          White's check with the bishop on g4 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by White, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 5.




          7.




          White's bishop on g4 and rook on c3 are giving an impossible double check.




          8.




          4. and 6. mean both kings are in check at the same time.




          9.




          White bishop on b1, though it wasn't born there and couldn't have moved there.




          10.




          White has two bishops on white squares but has eight pawns and thus has no promoted pieces.







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            Here's my 10 (I didn't look at anyone else's answers, honest)



            1.




            Nine black pawns.




            2.




            Black's h8 rook could not have left rank 8, yet black has two rooks, entailing a promotion from a tenth black pawn!




            3.




            Black pawns have made at least five captures, e.g. cxbxa3 and dxexfxg3, but White is missing only four units (queen, rook and two knights)




            4.




            Black's check with the bishop on f3 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by Black, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 3.




            5.




            White pawns have made at least three captures towards the kingside, e.g. bxcxd5 and dxe3. Moreover, two captures fxexf or fxgxf are needed to put a white pawn on f7. However, even if we remove a black pawn, black is missing only one unit (a rook).




            6.




            White's check with the bishop on g4 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by White, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 5.




            7.




            White's bishop on g4 and rook on c3 are giving an impossible double check.




            8.




            4. and 6. mean both kings are in check at the same time.




            9.




            White bishop on b1, though it wasn't born there and couldn't have moved there.




            10.




            White has two bishops on white squares but has eight pawns and thus has no promoted pieces.







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              Here's my 10 (I didn't look at anyone else's answers, honest)



              1.




              Nine black pawns.




              2.




              Black's h8 rook could not have left rank 8, yet black has two rooks, entailing a promotion from a tenth black pawn!




              3.




              Black pawns have made at least five captures, e.g. cxbxa3 and dxexfxg3, but White is missing only four units (queen, rook and two knights)




              4.




              Black's check with the bishop on f3 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by Black, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 3.




              5.




              White pawns have made at least three captures towards the kingside, e.g. bxcxd5 and dxe3. Moreover, two captures fxexf or fxgxf are needed to put a white pawn on f7. However, even if we remove a black pawn, black is missing only one unit (a rook).




              6.




              White's check with the bishop on g4 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by White, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 5.




              7.




              White's bishop on g4 and rook on c3 are giving an impossible double check.




              8.




              4. and 6. mean both kings are in check at the same time.




              9.




              White bishop on b1, though it wasn't born there and couldn't have moved there.




              10.




              White has two bishops on white squares but has eight pawns and thus has no promoted pieces.







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              Here's my 10 (I didn't look at anyone else's answers, honest)



              1.




              Nine black pawns.




              2.




              Black's h8 rook could not have left rank 8, yet black has two rooks, entailing a promotion from a tenth black pawn!




              3.




              Black pawns have made at least five captures, e.g. cxbxa3 and dxexfxg3, but White is missing only four units (queen, rook and two knights)




              4.




              Black's check with the bishop on f3 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by Black, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 3.




              5.




              White pawns have made at least three captures towards the kingside, e.g. bxcxd5 and dxe3. Moreover, two captures fxexf or fxgxf are needed to put a white pawn on f7. However, even if we remove a black pawn, black is missing only one unit (a rook).




              6.




              White's check with the bishop on g4 had to be a capture -- yet another capture by White, and this capture, too, is invalid for the same reason as given in 5.




              7.




              White's bishop on g4 and rook on c3 are giving an impossible double check.




              8.




              4. and 6. mean both kings are in check at the same time.




              9.




              White bishop on b1, though it wasn't born there and couldn't have moved there.




              10.




              White has two bishops on white squares but has eight pawns and thus has no promoted pieces.








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                  I'm not sure how you're counting, but here's my answer. Possibly an incomplete answer.



                  1.




                  Both kings are in check.




                  2.




                  The black king is in check from two pieces.




                  3.




                  There are 9 black pawns. Removing the one at g3 makes the pawns at a3 and b2 valid via capturing white officers.




                  4.




                  There are not enough captured black pieces for the white pawns to be in those positions. The f7 pawn in particular is in a suspicious location, though this pawn configuration is possible if there were enough black officers to capture.




                  5.




                  The white bishop on b1 is in an impossible location.




                  6.




                  The white bishops are both on white squares, but all of the pawns are present.




                  7.




                  The black rook at a1 is in an impossible location... Sort of. It would be possible via promotion, but there already too many black pawns for that to be possible.




                  8.




                  There should be a black rook in the upper-right corner because there's no way it could get out with the bishop at f8.




                  That's all I see. I might be lumping together multiple items by your count into one.






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                    I'm not sure how you're counting, but here's my answer. Possibly an incomplete answer.



                    1.




                    Both kings are in check.




                    2.




                    The black king is in check from two pieces.




                    3.




                    There are 9 black pawns. Removing the one at g3 makes the pawns at a3 and b2 valid via capturing white officers.




                    4.




                    There are not enough captured black pieces for the white pawns to be in those positions. The f7 pawn in particular is in a suspicious location, though this pawn configuration is possible if there were enough black officers to capture.




                    5.




                    The white bishop on b1 is in an impossible location.




                    6.




                    The white bishops are both on white squares, but all of the pawns are present.




                    7.




                    The black rook at a1 is in an impossible location... Sort of. It would be possible via promotion, but there already too many black pawns for that to be possible.




                    8.




                    There should be a black rook in the upper-right corner because there's no way it could get out with the bishop at f8.




                    That's all I see. I might be lumping together multiple items by your count into one.






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                      I'm not sure how you're counting, but here's my answer. Possibly an incomplete answer.



                      1.




                      Both kings are in check.




                      2.




                      The black king is in check from two pieces.




                      3.




                      There are 9 black pawns. Removing the one at g3 makes the pawns at a3 and b2 valid via capturing white officers.




                      4.




                      There are not enough captured black pieces for the white pawns to be in those positions. The f7 pawn in particular is in a suspicious location, though this pawn configuration is possible if there were enough black officers to capture.




                      5.




                      The white bishop on b1 is in an impossible location.




                      6.




                      The white bishops are both on white squares, but all of the pawns are present.




                      7.




                      The black rook at a1 is in an impossible location... Sort of. It would be possible via promotion, but there already too many black pawns for that to be possible.




                      8.




                      There should be a black rook in the upper-right corner because there's no way it could get out with the bishop at f8.




                      That's all I see. I might be lumping together multiple items by your count into one.






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                      I'm not sure how you're counting, but here's my answer. Possibly an incomplete answer.



                      1.




                      Both kings are in check.




                      2.




                      The black king is in check from two pieces.




                      3.




                      There are 9 black pawns. Removing the one at g3 makes the pawns at a3 and b2 valid via capturing white officers.




                      4.




                      There are not enough captured black pieces for the white pawns to be in those positions. The f7 pawn in particular is in a suspicious location, though this pawn configuration is possible if there were enough black officers to capture.




                      5.




                      The white bishop on b1 is in an impossible location.




                      6.




                      The white bishops are both on white squares, but all of the pawns are present.




                      7.




                      The black rook at a1 is in an impossible location... Sort of. It would be possible via promotion, but there already too many black pawns for that to be possible.




                      8.




                      There should be a black rook in the upper-right corner because there's no way it could get out with the bishop at f8.




                      That's all I see. I might be lumping together multiple items by your count into one.







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                          I only managed to find 10 so far, here it is:




                          1. White bishop in B1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                          2. Two white bishops in the white square, while still having 8 pawns.

                          3. Black Rook in A1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                          4. Black Rook going out from H8 while Bishop hasn't moved from F8.

                          5. White Rook missing from A1. Stolen and replaced by black rook? :P

                          6. Black pawn totaling 9. It was supposed to be only 8 in a game.

                          7. White king under check, while black king also in check.

                          8. Black king under two different check, from Rook in C3 and Bishop on G4

                          9. White pawn structure. It just simply weird to have a pawn on F7, D5 while also having a pawn on E3, while black only missing a knight.

                          10. Both kings is under check, is simply impossible.







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                            I only managed to find 10 so far, here it is:




                            1. White bishop in B1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                            2. Two white bishops in the white square, while still having 8 pawns.

                            3. Black Rook in A1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                            4. Black Rook going out from H8 while Bishop hasn't moved from F8.

                            5. White Rook missing from A1. Stolen and replaced by black rook? :P

                            6. Black pawn totaling 9. It was supposed to be only 8 in a game.

                            7. White king under check, while black king also in check.

                            8. Black king under two different check, from Rook in C3 and Bishop on G4

                            9. White pawn structure. It just simply weird to have a pawn on F7, D5 while also having a pawn on E3, while black only missing a knight.

                            10. Both kings is under check, is simply impossible.







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                              I only managed to find 10 so far, here it is:




                              1. White bishop in B1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                              2. Two white bishops in the white square, while still having 8 pawns.

                              3. Black Rook in A1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                              4. Black Rook going out from H8 while Bishop hasn't moved from F8.

                              5. White Rook missing from A1. Stolen and replaced by black rook? :P

                              6. Black pawn totaling 9. It was supposed to be only 8 in a game.

                              7. White king under check, while black king also in check.

                              8. Black king under two different check, from Rook in C3 and Bishop on G4

                              9. White pawn structure. It just simply weird to have a pawn on F7, D5 while also having a pawn on E3, while black only missing a knight.

                              10. Both kings is under check, is simply impossible.







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                              I only managed to find 10 so far, here it is:




                              1. White bishop in B1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                              2. Two white bishops in the white square, while still having 8 pawns.

                              3. Black Rook in A1. It's not possible in a normal game.

                              4. Black Rook going out from H8 while Bishop hasn't moved from F8.

                              5. White Rook missing from A1. Stolen and replaced by black rook? :P

                              6. Black pawn totaling 9. It was supposed to be only 8 in a game.

                              7. White king under check, while black king also in check.

                              8. Black king under two different check, from Rook in C3 and Bishop on G4

                              9. White pawn structure. It just simply weird to have a pawn on F7, D5 while also having a pawn on E3, while black only missing a knight.

                              10. Both kings is under check, is simply impossible.








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                                  1. Black has 9 pawns.




                                  2.




                                  Both kings are in check.




                                  3.




                                  The black king is in double check. This can only happen if one of the checking pieces shielded the opponent king from the other prior to the check. This is not possible with the took on c3 and the bishop on h4.




                                  4.




                                  The white bishop on b1 could never have reached this field with the white pawns on a2, c2.




                                  5.




                                  White has two bishops on white fields. This can only happen after a pawn has been promoted. White however still has their complete set of 8 pawns.




                                  6.




                                  With white pawns on the e and g files and a black pawn on f6, the white pawn on f7 can reach this field only with at least 2 captures. However, black has lost only 1 piece and all pawns (in fact even one surplus pawn, he. item 1), thus never had a promoted piece.




                                  7.




                                  White's pawn structure implies at least 5 captures (bxc, cxd; dxe; fxe, exf) but black has lost a single piece only and no promotion so far (cf. item 6)




                                  8.




                                  With black pawns on e7,f6,g7,h7 and a black bishop on f8, the black rook initially on h8 could only have reached the field g8.




                                  9.




                                  The black king is in check so white moved last. Since the white bishop on h4 can only move along the diagonal to c8 the black king must have been in check before the move; or black put itself into check by illegally moving a pinned piece; or white moved a different piece to open the diagonal, but white does not have a piece that could have moved this way [not sure if this counts though as the checking situation is impossible in the first place, cf. items 2 & 3]




                                  10.




                                  Black is in an 'impossible' double check and puts white in check (cf. items 2 & 3). That can only happen if black doesn't move out of a check, thus playing illegally.







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                                    1. Black has 9 pawns.




                                    2.




                                    Both kings are in check.




                                    3.




                                    The black king is in double check. This can only happen if one of the checking pieces shielded the opponent king from the other prior to the check. This is not possible with the took on c3 and the bishop on h4.




                                    4.




                                    The white bishop on b1 could never have reached this field with the white pawns on a2, c2.




                                    5.




                                    White has two bishops on white fields. This can only happen after a pawn has been promoted. White however still has their complete set of 8 pawns.




                                    6.




                                    With white pawns on the e and g files and a black pawn on f6, the white pawn on f7 can reach this field only with at least 2 captures. However, black has lost only 1 piece and all pawns (in fact even one surplus pawn, he. item 1), thus never had a promoted piece.




                                    7.




                                    White's pawn structure implies at least 5 captures (bxc, cxd; dxe; fxe, exf) but black has lost a single piece only and no promotion so far (cf. item 6)




                                    8.




                                    With black pawns on e7,f6,g7,h7 and a black bishop on f8, the black rook initially on h8 could only have reached the field g8.




                                    9.




                                    The black king is in check so white moved last. Since the white bishop on h4 can only move along the diagonal to c8 the black king must have been in check before the move; or black put itself into check by illegally moving a pinned piece; or white moved a different piece to open the diagonal, but white does not have a piece that could have moved this way [not sure if this counts though as the checking situation is impossible in the first place, cf. items 2 & 3]




                                    10.




                                    Black is in an 'impossible' double check and puts white in check (cf. items 2 & 3). That can only happen if black doesn't move out of a check, thus playing illegally.







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                                      1. Black has 9 pawns.




                                      2.




                                      Both kings are in check.




                                      3.




                                      The black king is in double check. This can only happen if one of the checking pieces shielded the opponent king from the other prior to the check. This is not possible with the took on c3 and the bishop on h4.




                                      4.




                                      The white bishop on b1 could never have reached this field with the white pawns on a2, c2.




                                      5.




                                      White has two bishops on white fields. This can only happen after a pawn has been promoted. White however still has their complete set of 8 pawns.




                                      6.




                                      With white pawns on the e and g files and a black pawn on f6, the white pawn on f7 can reach this field only with at least 2 captures. However, black has lost only 1 piece and all pawns (in fact even one surplus pawn, he. item 1), thus never had a promoted piece.




                                      7.




                                      White's pawn structure implies at least 5 captures (bxc, cxd; dxe; fxe, exf) but black has lost a single piece only and no promotion so far (cf. item 6)




                                      8.




                                      With black pawns on e7,f6,g7,h7 and a black bishop on f8, the black rook initially on h8 could only have reached the field g8.




                                      9.




                                      The black king is in check so white moved last. Since the white bishop on h4 can only move along the diagonal to c8 the black king must have been in check before the move; or black put itself into check by illegally moving a pinned piece; or white moved a different piece to open the diagonal, but white does not have a piece that could have moved this way [not sure if this counts though as the checking situation is impossible in the first place, cf. items 2 & 3]




                                      10.




                                      Black is in an 'impossible' double check and puts white in check (cf. items 2 & 3). That can only happen if black doesn't move out of a check, thus playing illegally.







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                                      1. Black has 9 pawns.




                                      2.




                                      Both kings are in check.




                                      3.




                                      The black king is in double check. This can only happen if one of the checking pieces shielded the opponent king from the other prior to the check. This is not possible with the took on c3 and the bishop on h4.




                                      4.




                                      The white bishop on b1 could never have reached this field with the white pawns on a2, c2.




                                      5.




                                      White has two bishops on white fields. This can only happen after a pawn has been promoted. White however still has their complete set of 8 pawns.




                                      6.




                                      With white pawns on the e and g files and a black pawn on f6, the white pawn on f7 can reach this field only with at least 2 captures. However, black has lost only 1 piece and all pawns (in fact even one surplus pawn, he. item 1), thus never had a promoted piece.




                                      7.




                                      White's pawn structure implies at least 5 captures (bxc, cxd; dxe; fxe, exf) but black has lost a single piece only and no promotion so far (cf. item 6)




                                      8.




                                      With black pawns on e7,f6,g7,h7 and a black bishop on f8, the black rook initially on h8 could only have reached the field g8.




                                      9.




                                      The black king is in check so white moved last. Since the white bishop on h4 can only move along the diagonal to c8 the black king must have been in check before the move; or black put itself into check by illegally moving a pinned piece; or white moved a different piece to open the diagonal, but white does not have a piece that could have moved this way [not sure if this counts though as the checking situation is impossible in the first place, cf. items 2 & 3]




                                      10.




                                      Black is in an 'impossible' double check and puts white in check (cf. items 2 & 3). That can only happen if black doesn't move out of a check, thus playing illegally.








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