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My Lenovo ThinkPad T61 is rather old, and a couple of years ago I had to replace the battery as the old one was dead. Now the replacement battery seems like dying a slow death, but I get conflicting data from xfce4-power-manager. So I'm wondering if there is a way to check whether the battery is healthy.



The symptoms are as follows:




  • The power manager indicates that the battery is fully charged

  • If I disconnect the AC charger, then the battery status jumps to 47% or similar in less than 5min

  • And in less than 15min the laptop runs out of juice and shuts down


I tried to check upower data:



root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower --enumerate
/org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_AC
/org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
native-path: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:00/PNP0C09:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT0
vendor: SANYO
model: 92P1137
serial: 885
power supply: yes
updated: Wed 19 Feb 2014 09:35:37 PM CET (23 seconds ago)
has history: yes
has statistics: yes
battery
present: yes
rechargeable: yes
state: fully-charged
energy: 70.38 Wh
energy-empty: 0 Wh
energy-full: 72.42 Wh
energy-full-design: 71.28 Wh
energy-rate: 26.561 W
voltage: 12.4 V
percentage: 97.1831%
capacity: 100%
technology: lithium-ion


I also looked at ACPI data:



root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info 
present: yes
design capacity: 71280 mWh
last full capacity: 72420 mWh
battery technology: rechargeable
design voltage: 10800 mV
design capacity warning: 3621 mWh
design capacity low: 200 mWh
cycle count: 0
capacity granularity 1: 1 mWh
capacity granularity 2: 1 mWh
model number: 92P1137
serial number: 885
battery type: LION
OEM info: SANYO
root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
present: yes
capacity state: ok
charging state: charged
present rate: 0 mW
remaining capacity: 70380 mWh
present voltage: 12400 mV


But I cannot pinpoint anything suspicious: the design capacity and last full capacity seem healthy to me.



So is there some other utility that could indicate whether the battery is working as expected, or needs replaced?










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    My Lenovo ThinkPad T61 is rather old, and a couple of years ago I had to replace the battery as the old one was dead. Now the replacement battery seems like dying a slow death, but I get conflicting data from xfce4-power-manager. So I'm wondering if there is a way to check whether the battery is healthy.



    The symptoms are as follows:




    • The power manager indicates that the battery is fully charged

    • If I disconnect the AC charger, then the battery status jumps to 47% or similar in less than 5min

    • And in less than 15min the laptop runs out of juice and shuts down


    I tried to check upower data:



    root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower --enumerate
    /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_AC
    /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
    root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
    native-path: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:00/PNP0C09:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT0
    vendor: SANYO
    model: 92P1137
    serial: 885
    power supply: yes
    updated: Wed 19 Feb 2014 09:35:37 PM CET (23 seconds ago)
    has history: yes
    has statistics: yes
    battery
    present: yes
    rechargeable: yes
    state: fully-charged
    energy: 70.38 Wh
    energy-empty: 0 Wh
    energy-full: 72.42 Wh
    energy-full-design: 71.28 Wh
    energy-rate: 26.561 W
    voltage: 12.4 V
    percentage: 97.1831%
    capacity: 100%
    technology: lithium-ion


    I also looked at ACPI data:



    root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info 
    present: yes
    design capacity: 71280 mWh
    last full capacity: 72420 mWh
    battery technology: rechargeable
    design voltage: 10800 mV
    design capacity warning: 3621 mWh
    design capacity low: 200 mWh
    cycle count: 0
    capacity granularity 1: 1 mWh
    capacity granularity 2: 1 mWh
    model number: 92P1137
    serial number: 885
    battery type: LION
    OEM info: SANYO
    root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
    present: yes
    capacity state: ok
    charging state: charged
    present rate: 0 mW
    remaining capacity: 70380 mWh
    present voltage: 12400 mV


    But I cannot pinpoint anything suspicious: the design capacity and last full capacity seem healthy to me.



    So is there some other utility that could indicate whether the battery is working as expected, or needs replaced?










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      My Lenovo ThinkPad T61 is rather old, and a couple of years ago I had to replace the battery as the old one was dead. Now the replacement battery seems like dying a slow death, but I get conflicting data from xfce4-power-manager. So I'm wondering if there is a way to check whether the battery is healthy.



      The symptoms are as follows:




      • The power manager indicates that the battery is fully charged

      • If I disconnect the AC charger, then the battery status jumps to 47% or similar in less than 5min

      • And in less than 15min the laptop runs out of juice and shuts down


      I tried to check upower data:



      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower --enumerate
      /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_AC
      /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
      native-path: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:00/PNP0C09:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT0
      vendor: SANYO
      model: 92P1137
      serial: 885
      power supply: yes
      updated: Wed 19 Feb 2014 09:35:37 PM CET (23 seconds ago)
      has history: yes
      has statistics: yes
      battery
      present: yes
      rechargeable: yes
      state: fully-charged
      energy: 70.38 Wh
      energy-empty: 0 Wh
      energy-full: 72.42 Wh
      energy-full-design: 71.28 Wh
      energy-rate: 26.561 W
      voltage: 12.4 V
      percentage: 97.1831%
      capacity: 100%
      technology: lithium-ion


      I also looked at ACPI data:



      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info 
      present: yes
      design capacity: 71280 mWh
      last full capacity: 72420 mWh
      battery technology: rechargeable
      design voltage: 10800 mV
      design capacity warning: 3621 mWh
      design capacity low: 200 mWh
      cycle count: 0
      capacity granularity 1: 1 mWh
      capacity granularity 2: 1 mWh
      model number: 92P1137
      serial number: 885
      battery type: LION
      OEM info: SANYO
      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
      present: yes
      capacity state: ok
      charging state: charged
      present rate: 0 mW
      remaining capacity: 70380 mWh
      present voltage: 12400 mV


      But I cannot pinpoint anything suspicious: the design capacity and last full capacity seem healthy to me.



      So is there some other utility that could indicate whether the battery is working as expected, or needs replaced?










      share|improve this question















      My Lenovo ThinkPad T61 is rather old, and a couple of years ago I had to replace the battery as the old one was dead. Now the replacement battery seems like dying a slow death, but I get conflicting data from xfce4-power-manager. So I'm wondering if there is a way to check whether the battery is healthy.



      The symptoms are as follows:




      • The power manager indicates that the battery is fully charged

      • If I disconnect the AC charger, then the battery status jumps to 47% or similar in less than 5min

      • And in less than 15min the laptop runs out of juice and shuts down


      I tried to check upower data:



      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower --enumerate
      /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_AC
      /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
      native-path: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:00/PNP0C09:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT0
      vendor: SANYO
      model: 92P1137
      serial: 885
      power supply: yes
      updated: Wed 19 Feb 2014 09:35:37 PM CET (23 seconds ago)
      has history: yes
      has statistics: yes
      battery
      present: yes
      rechargeable: yes
      state: fully-charged
      energy: 70.38 Wh
      energy-empty: 0 Wh
      energy-full: 72.42 Wh
      energy-full-design: 71.28 Wh
      energy-rate: 26.561 W
      voltage: 12.4 V
      percentage: 97.1831%
      capacity: 100%
      technology: lithium-ion


      I also looked at ACPI data:



      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info 
      present: yes
      design capacity: 71280 mWh
      last full capacity: 72420 mWh
      battery technology: rechargeable
      design voltage: 10800 mV
      design capacity warning: 3621 mWh
      design capacity low: 200 mWh
      cycle count: 0
      capacity granularity 1: 1 mWh
      capacity granularity 2: 1 mWh
      model number: 92P1137
      serial number: 885
      battery type: LION
      OEM info: SANYO
      root@malou-laptop:/home/liv# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
      present: yes
      capacity state: ok
      charging state: charged
      present rate: 0 mW
      remaining capacity: 70380 mWh
      present voltage: 12400 mV


      But I cannot pinpoint anything suspicious: the design capacity and last full capacity seem healthy to me.



      So is there some other utility that could indicate whether the battery is working as expected, or needs replaced?







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          I don't know why you're looking for corroborating evidence from the system, when you have solid empirical evidence. The battery won't hold a charge. Period, end of story.



          I'd be happier if I saw a high charge cycle count. Lithium ion isn't good for more than about 500 charge cycles.



          Another datum, which won't appear in the places you've been looking, is how much of the laptop's usage life on this new battery has been while plugged in, and whether it's frequently gone through a full discharge/charge cycle.



          Too many people use laptops as if they were small desktops, leaving them plugged in most of the time. This is not healthy for the battery. The analogy I like to use is that a toy balloon will last longer if you blow it up only part way, rather than blow it up as far as it can go and leave it there. A full charge on the battery increases some of the stresses on it.






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          • What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
            – landroni
            Feb 19 '14 at 22:04






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            @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
            – derobert
            Feb 19 '14 at 22:11










          • Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
            – GPraz
            May 16 '18 at 14:28



















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          You can also check the battery health by using the inxi tool with this command :



          $ ./inxi -Bx
          Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.7 Wh condition: 40.3/47.5 Wh (85%) model: PA5109U-1BRS status: Discharging


          and check the condition value.






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            I don't know why you're looking for corroborating evidence from the system, when you have solid empirical evidence. The battery won't hold a charge. Period, end of story.



            I'd be happier if I saw a high charge cycle count. Lithium ion isn't good for more than about 500 charge cycles.



            Another datum, which won't appear in the places you've been looking, is how much of the laptop's usage life on this new battery has been while plugged in, and whether it's frequently gone through a full discharge/charge cycle.



            Too many people use laptops as if they were small desktops, leaving them plugged in most of the time. This is not healthy for the battery. The analogy I like to use is that a toy balloon will last longer if you blow it up only part way, rather than blow it up as far as it can go and leave it there. A full charge on the battery increases some of the stresses on it.






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            • What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
              – landroni
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:04






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              @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
              – derobert
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:11










            • Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
              – GPraz
              May 16 '18 at 14:28
















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            I don't know why you're looking for corroborating evidence from the system, when you have solid empirical evidence. The battery won't hold a charge. Period, end of story.



            I'd be happier if I saw a high charge cycle count. Lithium ion isn't good for more than about 500 charge cycles.



            Another datum, which won't appear in the places you've been looking, is how much of the laptop's usage life on this new battery has been while plugged in, and whether it's frequently gone through a full discharge/charge cycle.



            Too many people use laptops as if they were small desktops, leaving them plugged in most of the time. This is not healthy for the battery. The analogy I like to use is that a toy balloon will last longer if you blow it up only part way, rather than blow it up as far as it can go and leave it there. A full charge on the battery increases some of the stresses on it.






            share|improve this answer





















            • What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
              – landroni
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:04






            • 1




              @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
              – derobert
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:11










            • Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
              – GPraz
              May 16 '18 at 14:28














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            I don't know why you're looking for corroborating evidence from the system, when you have solid empirical evidence. The battery won't hold a charge. Period, end of story.



            I'd be happier if I saw a high charge cycle count. Lithium ion isn't good for more than about 500 charge cycles.



            Another datum, which won't appear in the places you've been looking, is how much of the laptop's usage life on this new battery has been while plugged in, and whether it's frequently gone through a full discharge/charge cycle.



            Too many people use laptops as if they were small desktops, leaving them plugged in most of the time. This is not healthy for the battery. The analogy I like to use is that a toy balloon will last longer if you blow it up only part way, rather than blow it up as far as it can go and leave it there. A full charge on the battery increases some of the stresses on it.






            share|improve this answer












            I don't know why you're looking for corroborating evidence from the system, when you have solid empirical evidence. The battery won't hold a charge. Period, end of story.



            I'd be happier if I saw a high charge cycle count. Lithium ion isn't good for more than about 500 charge cycles.



            Another datum, which won't appear in the places you've been looking, is how much of the laptop's usage life on this new battery has been while plugged in, and whether it's frequently gone through a full discharge/charge cycle.



            Too many people use laptops as if they were small desktops, leaving them plugged in most of the time. This is not healthy for the battery. The analogy I like to use is that a toy balloon will last longer if you blow it up only part way, rather than blow it up as far as it can go and leave it there. A full charge on the battery increases some of the stresses on it.







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            • What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
              – landroni
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:04






            • 1




              @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
              – derobert
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:11










            • Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
              – GPraz
              May 16 '18 at 14:28


















            • What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
              – landroni
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:04






            • 1




              @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
              – derobert
              Feb 19 '14 at 22:11










            • Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
              – GPraz
              May 16 '18 at 14:28
















            What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
            – landroni
            Feb 19 '14 at 22:04




            What does cycle count: 0 indicate? That the sensors do not report this info?
            – landroni
            Feb 19 '14 at 22:04




            1




            1




            @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
            – derobert
            Feb 19 '14 at 22:11




            @landroni Yes, most likely 0 just means it isn't tracked, or at least isn't reported by ACPI to Linux.
            – derobert
            Feb 19 '14 at 22:11












            Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
            – GPraz
            May 16 '18 at 14:28




            Should we charge the battery only up to 50-60% then let it discharge for better lifespan?
            – GPraz
            May 16 '18 at 14:28













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            You can also check the battery health by using the inxi tool with this command :



            $ ./inxi -Bx
            Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.7 Wh condition: 40.3/47.5 Wh (85%) model: PA5109U-1BRS status: Discharging


            and check the condition value.






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              You can also check the battery health by using the inxi tool with this command :



              $ ./inxi -Bx
              Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.7 Wh condition: 40.3/47.5 Wh (85%) model: PA5109U-1BRS status: Discharging


              and check the condition value.






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                You can also check the battery health by using the inxi tool with this command :



                $ ./inxi -Bx
                Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.7 Wh condition: 40.3/47.5 Wh (85%) model: PA5109U-1BRS status: Discharging


                and check the condition value.






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                You can also check the battery health by using the inxi tool with this command :



                $ ./inxi -Bx
                Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.7 Wh condition: 40.3/47.5 Wh (85%) model: PA5109U-1BRS status: Discharging


                and check the condition value.







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