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Is it possible to add a name as a group member when the name has a space? For example "foo bars" is the name and I want it to add to the group called "reindeers".



This group is created in AD and it is quite common for names to have spaces. I won't be able to change the name.



Apologies if this has already been asked here. I just could not find any references. I did find solutions/discussions to adding a username with a space in the sudoers config file by replacing the space with a "_" instead, or escaping the space with a backslash. Not sure if this works with regards to adding it to a group.



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  • Did you try "%20"?

    – Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:19






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    You want to add a group (that has a space in it) into another group? How does that work on unix?

    – thrig
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:22











  • Won't "%20" be treated literally instead in this case?

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:24











  • @thrig I know, right? I can't even add a username like "foo bars" coz of restrictions. And even if I could, I would not do that. It's just bad practice. Alas, this is not just up to me. How do I explain this to clients? I want to exhaust all other options where possible before going back to them and probably get into an argument.

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:27






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    Why, for the sake of Church of Emacs, would somebody like to have a username (or group name) with space in it?

    – cezar
    Nov 1 '17 at 7:27
















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Is it possible to add a name as a group member when the name has a space? For example "foo bars" is the name and I want it to add to the group called "reindeers".



This group is created in AD and it is quite common for names to have spaces. I won't be able to change the name.



Apologies if this has already been asked here. I just could not find any references. I did find solutions/discussions to adding a username with a space in the sudoers config file by replacing the space with a "_" instead, or escaping the space with a backslash. Not sure if this works with regards to adding it to a group.



Thanks,
Mrky










share|improve this question

























  • Did you try "%20"?

    – Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:19






  • 1





    You want to add a group (that has a space in it) into another group? How does that work on unix?

    – thrig
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:22











  • Won't "%20" be treated literally instead in this case?

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:24











  • @thrig I know, right? I can't even add a username like "foo bars" coz of restrictions. And even if I could, I would not do that. It's just bad practice. Alas, this is not just up to me. How do I explain this to clients? I want to exhaust all other options where possible before going back to them and probably get into an argument.

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:27






  • 4





    Why, for the sake of Church of Emacs, would somebody like to have a username (or group name) with space in it?

    – cezar
    Nov 1 '17 at 7:27














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Is it possible to add a name as a group member when the name has a space? For example "foo bars" is the name and I want it to add to the group called "reindeers".



This group is created in AD and it is quite common for names to have spaces. I won't be able to change the name.



Apologies if this has already been asked here. I just could not find any references. I did find solutions/discussions to adding a username with a space in the sudoers config file by replacing the space with a "_" instead, or escaping the space with a backslash. Not sure if this works with regards to adding it to a group.



Thanks,
Mrky










share|improve this question
















Is it possible to add a name as a group member when the name has a space? For example "foo bars" is the name and I want it to add to the group called "reindeers".



This group is created in AD and it is quite common for names to have spaces. I won't be able to change the name.



Apologies if this has already been asked here. I just could not find any references. I did find solutions/discussions to adding a username with a space in the sudoers config file by replacing the space with a "_" instead, or escaping the space with a backslash. Not sure if this works with regards to adding it to a group.



Thanks,
Mrky







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  • Did you try "%20"?

    – Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:19






  • 1





    You want to add a group (that has a space in it) into another group? How does that work on unix?

    – thrig
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:22











  • Won't "%20" be treated literally instead in this case?

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:24











  • @thrig I know, right? I can't even add a username like "foo bars" coz of restrictions. And even if I could, I would not do that. It's just bad practice. Alas, this is not just up to me. How do I explain this to clients? I want to exhaust all other options where possible before going back to them and probably get into an argument.

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:27






  • 4





    Why, for the sake of Church of Emacs, would somebody like to have a username (or group name) with space in it?

    – cezar
    Nov 1 '17 at 7:27



















  • Did you try "%20"?

    – Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:19






  • 1





    You want to add a group (that has a space in it) into another group? How does that work on unix?

    – thrig
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:22











  • Won't "%20" be treated literally instead in this case?

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:24











  • @thrig I know, right? I can't even add a username like "foo bars" coz of restrictions. And even if I could, I would not do that. It's just bad practice. Alas, this is not just up to me. How do I explain this to clients? I want to exhaust all other options where possible before going back to them and probably get into an argument.

    – markyxyz
    Nov 1 '17 at 4:27






  • 4





    Why, for the sake of Church of Emacs, would somebody like to have a username (or group name) with space in it?

    – cezar
    Nov 1 '17 at 7:27

















Did you try "%20"?

– Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
Nov 1 '17 at 4:19





Did you try "%20"?

– Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
Nov 1 '17 at 4:19




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1





You want to add a group (that has a space in it) into another group? How does that work on unix?

– thrig
Nov 1 '17 at 4:22





You want to add a group (that has a space in it) into another group? How does that work on unix?

– thrig
Nov 1 '17 at 4:22













Won't "%20" be treated literally instead in this case?

– markyxyz
Nov 1 '17 at 4:24





Won't "%20" be treated literally instead in this case?

– markyxyz
Nov 1 '17 at 4:24













@thrig I know, right? I can't even add a username like "foo bars" coz of restrictions. And even if I could, I would not do that. It's just bad practice. Alas, this is not just up to me. How do I explain this to clients? I want to exhaust all other options where possible before going back to them and probably get into an argument.

– markyxyz
Nov 1 '17 at 4:27





@thrig I know, right? I can't even add a username like "foo bars" coz of restrictions. And even if I could, I would not do that. It's just bad practice. Alas, this is not just up to me. How do I explain this to clients? I want to exhaust all other options where possible before going back to them and probably get into an argument.

– markyxyz
Nov 1 '17 at 4:27




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Why, for the sake of Church of Emacs, would somebody like to have a username (or group name) with space in it?

– cezar
Nov 1 '17 at 7:27





Why, for the sake of Church of Emacs, would somebody like to have a username (or group name) with space in it?

– cezar
Nov 1 '17 at 7:27










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Group and user names aren’t allowed to contain the space character on POSIX-style systems; see Command line login failed with two strings ID in Debian Stretch for references (the restrictions apply to groups as well as users).



In your case you might be able to work around the limitation by managing your groups in AD rather than in /etc/group. But I’d recommend trying to convince the powers that be to drop spaces entirely...






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    I had a similar problem with group name "domain users" coming from AD. For chown I was able to use group id number instead of group name. For example:



    sudo chown -R user1:118600513 /home/user1


    where 118600513 is the id for a group "domain users".






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    • Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

      – ilkkachu
      Feb 6 '18 at 10:45











    • @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

      – djhurio
      Feb 6 '18 at 12:50



















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    I did not try this for group but for user info that is gecos info as in usermod command add " " i.e inverted commas with space in between.



    usermod username -c User" "Name





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      I spent an entire day searching the same topic.
      Here's what I found and tested on Debian 9 + Samba AD DC 4.5.12



      In order to set sharing folder permission, a somewhat local unix group or user must be present.
      Option 1: Create Group with gid
      I failed to map the gid after creation by net groupmap, but was able to map them at the time of creation by



      groupadd localgroupnamewithoutspace
      cat /etc/group
      samba-tool group add "Groupname with Space" --nis-domain=mydomain --gid-number=corresponding gid we just saw in /etc/group
      chgrp localgroupnamewithoutspace /path/of/share
      chmod 0770 /path/of/share


      Option 2: Look up gid of AD group
      Unix group doesn't allow space, so set group of directory to gid will work.
      However, when doing ls -al it will show gid number not AD group or Unix group name. This could potentially be a problem if multiple groups are nested and assigned in the same large sharing parent directory.



      wbinfo --name-to-sid "AD Group name with space"
      wbinfo --sid-to-gid "copy from the ouput above"


      it should look like this and you only need this part S-1-5-21-53980404-2501955692-3283166571-512
      then use the gid number when setting permission by chgrp, chmod.



      Noted, The above only takes care of AD group and Unix group mapping, the actual ACL and group member permission still requires to have proper SeDiskOperatorPrivilege setup, and then configured through Windows Client with account has SeDiskOperatorPrivilege in File Explorer and ADUC.



      edited: typo






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          Group and user names aren’t allowed to contain the space character on POSIX-style systems; see Command line login failed with two strings ID in Debian Stretch for references (the restrictions apply to groups as well as users).



          In your case you might be able to work around the limitation by managing your groups in AD rather than in /etc/group. But I’d recommend trying to convince the powers that be to drop spaces entirely...






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            Group and user names aren’t allowed to contain the space character on POSIX-style systems; see Command line login failed with two strings ID in Debian Stretch for references (the restrictions apply to groups as well as users).



            In your case you might be able to work around the limitation by managing your groups in AD rather than in /etc/group. But I’d recommend trying to convince the powers that be to drop spaces entirely...






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              Group and user names aren’t allowed to contain the space character on POSIX-style systems; see Command line login failed with two strings ID in Debian Stretch for references (the restrictions apply to groups as well as users).



              In your case you might be able to work around the limitation by managing your groups in AD rather than in /etc/group. But I’d recommend trying to convince the powers that be to drop spaces entirely...






              share|improve this answer













              Group and user names aren’t allowed to contain the space character on POSIX-style systems; see Command line login failed with two strings ID in Debian Stretch for references (the restrictions apply to groups as well as users).



              In your case you might be able to work around the limitation by managing your groups in AD rather than in /etc/group. But I’d recommend trying to convince the powers that be to drop spaces entirely...







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                  I had a similar problem with group name "domain users" coming from AD. For chown I was able to use group id number instead of group name. For example:



                  sudo chown -R user1:118600513 /home/user1


                  where 118600513 is the id for a group "domain users".






                  share|improve this answer


























                  • Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

                    – ilkkachu
                    Feb 6 '18 at 10:45











                  • @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

                    – djhurio
                    Feb 6 '18 at 12:50
















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                  I had a similar problem with group name "domain users" coming from AD. For chown I was able to use group id number instead of group name. For example:



                  sudo chown -R user1:118600513 /home/user1


                  where 118600513 is the id for a group "domain users".






                  share|improve this answer


























                  • Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

                    – ilkkachu
                    Feb 6 '18 at 10:45











                  • @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

                    – djhurio
                    Feb 6 '18 at 12:50














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                  I had a similar problem with group name "domain users" coming from AD. For chown I was able to use group id number instead of group name. For example:



                  sudo chown -R user1:118600513 /home/user1


                  where 118600513 is the id for a group "domain users".






                  share|improve this answer















                  I had a similar problem with group name "domain users" coming from AD. For chown I was able to use group id number instead of group name. For example:



                  sudo chown -R user1:118600513 /home/user1


                  where 118600513 is the id for a group "domain users".







                  share|improve this answer














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                  • Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

                    – ilkkachu
                    Feb 6 '18 at 10:45











                  • @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

                    – djhurio
                    Feb 6 '18 at 12:50



















                  • Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

                    – ilkkachu
                    Feb 6 '18 at 10:45











                  • @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

                    – djhurio
                    Feb 6 '18 at 12:50

















                  Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

                  – ilkkachu
                  Feb 6 '18 at 10:45





                  Using the GID might work for chown (since the group name doesn't really exist at that level), but I don't think this answers the question of how manage user-to-group membership with names like that.

                  – ilkkachu
                  Feb 6 '18 at 10:45













                  @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

                  – djhurio
                  Feb 6 '18 at 12:50





                  @ilkkachu, thanks! I have updated my answer. But you are right - probably it does not help OP.

                  – djhurio
                  Feb 6 '18 at 12:50











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                  I did not try this for group but for user info that is gecos info as in usermod command add " " i.e inverted commas with space in between.



                  usermod username -c User" "Name





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                    I did not try this for group but for user info that is gecos info as in usermod command add " " i.e inverted commas with space in between.



                    usermod username -c User" "Name





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                      I did not try this for group but for user info that is gecos info as in usermod command add " " i.e inverted commas with space in between.



                      usermod username -c User" "Name





                      share|improve this answer













                      I did not try this for group but for user info that is gecos info as in usermod command add " " i.e inverted commas with space in between.



                      usermod username -c User" "Name






                      share|improve this answer












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                          I spent an entire day searching the same topic.
                          Here's what I found and tested on Debian 9 + Samba AD DC 4.5.12



                          In order to set sharing folder permission, a somewhat local unix group or user must be present.
                          Option 1: Create Group with gid
                          I failed to map the gid after creation by net groupmap, but was able to map them at the time of creation by



                          groupadd localgroupnamewithoutspace
                          cat /etc/group
                          samba-tool group add "Groupname with Space" --nis-domain=mydomain --gid-number=corresponding gid we just saw in /etc/group
                          chgrp localgroupnamewithoutspace /path/of/share
                          chmod 0770 /path/of/share


                          Option 2: Look up gid of AD group
                          Unix group doesn't allow space, so set group of directory to gid will work.
                          However, when doing ls -al it will show gid number not AD group or Unix group name. This could potentially be a problem if multiple groups are nested and assigned in the same large sharing parent directory.



                          wbinfo --name-to-sid "AD Group name with space"
                          wbinfo --sid-to-gid "copy from the ouput above"


                          it should look like this and you only need this part S-1-5-21-53980404-2501955692-3283166571-512
                          then use the gid number when setting permission by chgrp, chmod.



                          Noted, The above only takes care of AD group and Unix group mapping, the actual ACL and group member permission still requires to have proper SeDiskOperatorPrivilege setup, and then configured through Windows Client with account has SeDiskOperatorPrivilege in File Explorer and ADUC.



                          edited: typo






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                            I spent an entire day searching the same topic.
                            Here's what I found and tested on Debian 9 + Samba AD DC 4.5.12



                            In order to set sharing folder permission, a somewhat local unix group or user must be present.
                            Option 1: Create Group with gid
                            I failed to map the gid after creation by net groupmap, but was able to map them at the time of creation by



                            groupadd localgroupnamewithoutspace
                            cat /etc/group
                            samba-tool group add "Groupname with Space" --nis-domain=mydomain --gid-number=corresponding gid we just saw in /etc/group
                            chgrp localgroupnamewithoutspace /path/of/share
                            chmod 0770 /path/of/share


                            Option 2: Look up gid of AD group
                            Unix group doesn't allow space, so set group of directory to gid will work.
                            However, when doing ls -al it will show gid number not AD group or Unix group name. This could potentially be a problem if multiple groups are nested and assigned in the same large sharing parent directory.



                            wbinfo --name-to-sid "AD Group name with space"
                            wbinfo --sid-to-gid "copy from the ouput above"


                            it should look like this and you only need this part S-1-5-21-53980404-2501955692-3283166571-512
                            then use the gid number when setting permission by chgrp, chmod.



                            Noted, The above only takes care of AD group and Unix group mapping, the actual ACL and group member permission still requires to have proper SeDiskOperatorPrivilege setup, and then configured through Windows Client with account has SeDiskOperatorPrivilege in File Explorer and ADUC.



                            edited: typo






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                              I spent an entire day searching the same topic.
                              Here's what I found and tested on Debian 9 + Samba AD DC 4.5.12



                              In order to set sharing folder permission, a somewhat local unix group or user must be present.
                              Option 1: Create Group with gid
                              I failed to map the gid after creation by net groupmap, but was able to map them at the time of creation by



                              groupadd localgroupnamewithoutspace
                              cat /etc/group
                              samba-tool group add "Groupname with Space" --nis-domain=mydomain --gid-number=corresponding gid we just saw in /etc/group
                              chgrp localgroupnamewithoutspace /path/of/share
                              chmod 0770 /path/of/share


                              Option 2: Look up gid of AD group
                              Unix group doesn't allow space, so set group of directory to gid will work.
                              However, when doing ls -al it will show gid number not AD group or Unix group name. This could potentially be a problem if multiple groups are nested and assigned in the same large sharing parent directory.



                              wbinfo --name-to-sid "AD Group name with space"
                              wbinfo --sid-to-gid "copy from the ouput above"


                              it should look like this and you only need this part S-1-5-21-53980404-2501955692-3283166571-512
                              then use the gid number when setting permission by chgrp, chmod.



                              Noted, The above only takes care of AD group and Unix group mapping, the actual ACL and group member permission still requires to have proper SeDiskOperatorPrivilege setup, and then configured through Windows Client with account has SeDiskOperatorPrivilege in File Explorer and ADUC.



                              edited: typo






                              share|improve this answer















                              I spent an entire day searching the same topic.
                              Here's what I found and tested on Debian 9 + Samba AD DC 4.5.12



                              In order to set sharing folder permission, a somewhat local unix group or user must be present.
                              Option 1: Create Group with gid
                              I failed to map the gid after creation by net groupmap, but was able to map them at the time of creation by



                              groupadd localgroupnamewithoutspace
                              cat /etc/group
                              samba-tool group add "Groupname with Space" --nis-domain=mydomain --gid-number=corresponding gid we just saw in /etc/group
                              chgrp localgroupnamewithoutspace /path/of/share
                              chmod 0770 /path/of/share


                              Option 2: Look up gid of AD group
                              Unix group doesn't allow space, so set group of directory to gid will work.
                              However, when doing ls -al it will show gid number not AD group or Unix group name. This could potentially be a problem if multiple groups are nested and assigned in the same large sharing parent directory.



                              wbinfo --name-to-sid "AD Group name with space"
                              wbinfo --sid-to-gid "copy from the ouput above"


                              it should look like this and you only need this part S-1-5-21-53980404-2501955692-3283166571-512
                              then use the gid number when setting permission by chgrp, chmod.



                              Noted, The above only takes care of AD group and Unix group mapping, the actual ACL and group member permission still requires to have proper SeDiskOperatorPrivilege setup, and then configured through Windows Client with account has SeDiskOperatorPrivilege in File Explorer and ADUC.



                              edited: typo







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                                      i Have doubt :
                                      Is it possible to create the user name has only space( )..?






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