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I know that this sentence is correct:



北京奥运会是2008年举办的。



But can you omit the “的” that is after the verb “举办”?



Like this:



北京奥运会是2008年举办[ ]。



I think, I have read some sentences that has omitted the “的” after a verb in the end of a sentence, but I'm not quite sure.



If you can, please provide me some examples.










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  • see grammar, topic: 是。。。的 sentences, search site for this topic, in principle either of 是,的 can be omitted, result of web search with "是。。。的句"[转载]“是”字句 VS “是……的”句 blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-331736-685113.html

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  • searching site: chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/29480/… esp. note comment #3

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    6 hours ago
















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I know that this sentence is correct:



北京奥运会是2008年举办的。



But can you omit the “的” that is after the verb “举办”?



Like this:



北京奥运会是2008年举办[ ]。



I think, I have read some sentences that has omitted the “的” after a verb in the end of a sentence, but I'm not quite sure.



If you can, please provide me some examples.










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  • see grammar, topic: 是。。。的 sentences, search site for this topic, in principle either of 是,的 can be omitted, result of web search with "是。。。的句"[转载]“是”字句 VS “是……的”句 blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-331736-685113.html

    – user6065
    7 hours ago











  • searching site: chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/29480/… esp. note comment #3

    – user6065
    6 hours ago














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I know that this sentence is correct:



北京奥运会是2008年举办的。



But can you omit the “的” that is after the verb “举办”?



Like this:



北京奥运会是2008年举办[ ]。



I think, I have read some sentences that has omitted the “的” after a verb in the end of a sentence, but I'm not quite sure.



If you can, please provide me some examples.










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I know that this sentence is correct:



北京奥运会是2008年举办的。



But can you omit the “的” that is after the verb “举办”?



Like this:



北京奥运会是2008年举办[ ]。



I think, I have read some sentences that has omitted the “的” after a verb in the end of a sentence, but I'm not quite sure.



If you can, please provide me some examples.







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  • see grammar, topic: 是。。。的 sentences, search site for this topic, in principle either of 是,的 can be omitted, result of web search with "是。。。的句"[转载]“是”字句 VS “是……的”句 blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-331736-685113.html

    – user6065
    7 hours ago











  • searching site: chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/29480/… esp. note comment #3

    – user6065
    6 hours ago



















  • see grammar, topic: 是。。。的 sentences, search site for this topic, in principle either of 是,的 can be omitted, result of web search with "是。。。的句"[转载]“是”字句 VS “是……的”句 blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-331736-685113.html

    – user6065
    7 hours ago











  • searching site: chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/29480/… esp. note comment #3

    – user6065
    6 hours ago

















see grammar, topic: 是。。。的 sentences, search site for this topic, in principle either of 是,的 can be omitted, result of web search with "是。。。的句"[转载]“是”字句 VS “是……的”句 blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-331736-685113.html

– user6065
7 hours ago





see grammar, topic: 是。。。的 sentences, search site for this topic, in principle either of 是,的 can be omitted, result of web search with "是。。。的句"[转载]“是”字句 VS “是……的”句 blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-331736-685113.html

– user6065
7 hours ago













searching site: chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/29480/… esp. note comment #3

– user6065
6 hours ago





searching site: chinese.stackexchange.com/questions/29480/… esp. note comment #3

– user6065
6 hours ago










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北京奥运会是2008年举办的。




"北京奥运会是2008年举办的" is a [topic + comment/opinion] sentence




  • Topic: 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics)


  • Comment: 是 2008年 举办的 (is hosted by 2008)



(It is obviously wrong, it makes 2008年 the subject. I will state the correct sentence later in this post)



The '的' here is a [possessive marker]. It marks the omitted object to be possessed by [2008年]




2008年 举办的(项目)



2008年 is the subject; 项目 (or other noun refers to 北京奥运会) is the omitted object




The correct sentence should be:




"北京奥运会是 2008年 举办的" (Beijing Olympics is hosted in 2008)



the subject '北京' is omitted, "北京奥运会是(北京)在 2008年 举办的"




In this sentence, '的' is an [adjective marker]. It turns "在 2008年举办" into an adjective phrase "在 2008年 举办的"



This adjective phrase describes 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics that is hosted in 2008)



'的' cannot be omitted in this sentence.



To avoid using 的, you can change this [topic + comment/opinion] sentence into a [SVO] sentence and write "(北京)在 2008年 举办北京奥运会" - "(Beijing) held the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008"



Since we do not omit the subject '北京' here, we can omit the '北京' in '北京奥运会' instead -- "北京在 2008年 举办(北京)奥运会"






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  • I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

    – Ben Jackson
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  • @Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

    – Tang Ho
    5 hours ago













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北京奥运会是2008年举办的。




"北京奥运会是2008年举办的" is a [topic + comment/opinion] sentence




  • Topic: 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics)


  • Comment: 是 2008年 举办的 (is hosted by 2008)



(It is obviously wrong, it makes 2008年 the subject. I will state the correct sentence later in this post)



The '的' here is a [possessive marker]. It marks the omitted object to be possessed by [2008年]




2008年 举办的(项目)



2008年 is the subject; 项目 (or other noun refers to 北京奥运会) is the omitted object




The correct sentence should be:




"北京奥运会是 2008年 举办的" (Beijing Olympics is hosted in 2008)



the subject '北京' is omitted, "北京奥运会是(北京)在 2008年 举办的"




In this sentence, '的' is an [adjective marker]. It turns "在 2008年举办" into an adjective phrase "在 2008年 举办的"



This adjective phrase describes 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics that is hosted in 2008)



'的' cannot be omitted in this sentence.



To avoid using 的, you can change this [topic + comment/opinion] sentence into a [SVO] sentence and write "(北京)在 2008年 举办北京奥运会" - "(Beijing) held the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008"



Since we do not omit the subject '北京' here, we can omit the '北京' in '北京奥运会' instead -- "北京在 2008年 举办(北京)奥运会"






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  • I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

    – Ben Jackson
    5 hours ago











  • @Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

    – Tang Ho
    5 hours ago


















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北京奥运会是2008年举办的。




"北京奥运会是2008年举办的" is a [topic + comment/opinion] sentence




  • Topic: 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics)


  • Comment: 是 2008年 举办的 (is hosted by 2008)



(It is obviously wrong, it makes 2008年 the subject. I will state the correct sentence later in this post)



The '的' here is a [possessive marker]. It marks the omitted object to be possessed by [2008年]




2008年 举办的(项目)



2008年 is the subject; 项目 (or other noun refers to 北京奥运会) is the omitted object




The correct sentence should be:




"北京奥运会是 2008年 举办的" (Beijing Olympics is hosted in 2008)



the subject '北京' is omitted, "北京奥运会是(北京)在 2008年 举办的"




In this sentence, '的' is an [adjective marker]. It turns "在 2008年举办" into an adjective phrase "在 2008年 举办的"



This adjective phrase describes 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics that is hosted in 2008)



'的' cannot be omitted in this sentence.



To avoid using 的, you can change this [topic + comment/opinion] sentence into a [SVO] sentence and write "(北京)在 2008年 举办北京奥运会" - "(Beijing) held the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008"



Since we do not omit the subject '北京' here, we can omit the '北京' in '北京奥运会' instead -- "北京在 2008年 举办(北京)奥运会"






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  • I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

    – Ben Jackson
    5 hours ago











  • @Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

    – Tang Ho
    5 hours ago
















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北京奥运会是2008年举办的。




"北京奥运会是2008年举办的" is a [topic + comment/opinion] sentence




  • Topic: 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics)


  • Comment: 是 2008年 举办的 (is hosted by 2008)



(It is obviously wrong, it makes 2008年 the subject. I will state the correct sentence later in this post)



The '的' here is a [possessive marker]. It marks the omitted object to be possessed by [2008年]




2008年 举办的(项目)



2008年 is the subject; 项目 (or other noun refers to 北京奥运会) is the omitted object




The correct sentence should be:




"北京奥运会是 2008年 举办的" (Beijing Olympics is hosted in 2008)



the subject '北京' is omitted, "北京奥运会是(北京)在 2008年 举办的"




In this sentence, '的' is an [adjective marker]. It turns "在 2008年举办" into an adjective phrase "在 2008年 举办的"



This adjective phrase describes 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics that is hosted in 2008)



'的' cannot be omitted in this sentence.



To avoid using 的, you can change this [topic + comment/opinion] sentence into a [SVO] sentence and write "(北京)在 2008年 举办北京奥运会" - "(Beijing) held the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008"



Since we do not omit the subject '北京' here, we can omit the '北京' in '北京奥运会' instead -- "北京在 2008年 举办(北京)奥运会"






share|improve this answer
















北京奥运会是2008年举办的。




"北京奥运会是2008年举办的" is a [topic + comment/opinion] sentence




  • Topic: 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics)


  • Comment: 是 2008年 举办的 (is hosted by 2008)



(It is obviously wrong, it makes 2008年 the subject. I will state the correct sentence later in this post)



The '的' here is a [possessive marker]. It marks the omitted object to be possessed by [2008年]




2008年 举办的(项目)



2008年 is the subject; 项目 (or other noun refers to 北京奥运会) is the omitted object




The correct sentence should be:




"北京奥运会是 2008年 举办的" (Beijing Olympics is hosted in 2008)



the subject '北京' is omitted, "北京奥运会是(北京)在 2008年 举办的"




In this sentence, '的' is an [adjective marker]. It turns "在 2008年举办" into an adjective phrase "在 2008年 举办的"



This adjective phrase describes 北京奥运会 (Beijing Olympics that is hosted in 2008)



'的' cannot be omitted in this sentence.



To avoid using 的, you can change this [topic + comment/opinion] sentence into a [SVO] sentence and write "(北京)在 2008年 举办北京奥运会" - "(Beijing) held the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008"



Since we do not omit the subject '北京' here, we can omit the '北京' in '北京奥运会' instead -- "北京在 2008年 举办(北京)奥运会"







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  • I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

    – Ben Jackson
    5 hours ago











  • @Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

    – Tang Ho
    5 hours ago





















  • I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

    – Ben Jackson
    5 hours ago











  • @Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

    – Tang Ho
    5 hours ago



















I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

– Ben Jackson
5 hours ago





I read [在] as indicating 在 is optional, but I think you mean to say the opposite: 在 is required. Otherwise the correct sentence is the same as the original.

– Ben Jackson
5 hours ago













@Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

– Tang Ho
5 hours ago







@Ben Jackson I was trying to make it stand out, yes, it is needed in this sentence, otherwise, 2008年 would become the subject

– Tang Ho
5 hours ago












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