Will expression retain the same definition if particle is changed?
自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。
I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?
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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。
I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?
particles particle-に particle-を
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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。
I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?
particles particle-に particle-を
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自分を奮い立たせるために、わざと自分の考えを声に出し行動を始めた。
I came across the expression 声を出す on jisho.org. I don't know if replacing the expression's を with に (because を is already used earlier in the sentence) will allow me to use the 声を出す definition when translating. Is this allowed?
particles particle-に particle-を
particles particle-に particle-を
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I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.
So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.
but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:
自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.
In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".
声に出して読む - To read out loud.
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
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Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
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声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.
声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".
- 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。
- 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。
See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?
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I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.
So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.
but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:
自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.
In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".
声に出して読む - To read out loud.
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
1
Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
41 mins ago
add a comment |
I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.
So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.
but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:
自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.
In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".
声に出して読む - To read out loud.
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
1
Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
41 mins ago
add a comment |
I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.
So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.
but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:
自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.
In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".
声に出して読む - To read out loud.
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
I will assume you know how to connect verbs with the te-form
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べて、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner and (then) sleep.
So, usually in texts/books, etc. There's a more formal way to do so, which is using the dictionary form instead.
晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を食【た】べ、寝【ね】る。I will eat dinner, and (then) sleep.
but sometimes, writers do that without using a comma in between verbs/words, and that is what might be throwing you off. So what you have there is 声に出し、行動. We could rewrite it as:
自分を奮い立たせるために、 わざと自分の考えを声に出して、行動を始めた。In order to cheer myself up, I started acting my thoughts out loud.
In your specific case though, I believe we should not use a comma, because it might be using the following pattern 声に出して＋verb/noun that usually means "Doing something out loud".
声に出して読む - To read out loud.
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
edited 5 hours ago
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
answered 5 hours ago
Felipe OliveiraFelipe Oliveira
2,003720
2,003720
1
Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
41 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
41 mins ago
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1
Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Wait a minute, its possible to connect verbs via no-te form?!? I never knew this... thanks for the information.
– Toyu_Frey
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
Yes, it is still called "continuative-form" but it uses the "dictionary form" instead of the "te-form" :)
– Felipe Oliveira
5 hours ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
41 mins ago
@Toyu_Frey Wait a minute, if you did not know that, why did you romove that part from your question? You were initially asking whether this 出し is a noun or a verb, but since you removed it, I thoght you were aware of that grammar :D
– naruto
41 mins ago
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声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.
声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".
- 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。
- 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。
See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?
answered 5 hours ago
narutonaruto
160k8153299
add a comment |
声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.
声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".
- 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。
- 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。
See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?
answered 5 hours ago
narutonaruto
160k8153299
add a comment |
声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.
声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".
- 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。
- 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。
See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?
answered 5 hours ago
narutonaruto
160k8153299
声を出す cannot take another object because 声 itself is the object of this transitive verb. What is said as a word is not important.
声に出す is an "incomplete" expression because it lacks a direct object. It should be preceded by an object or a quotative-と to show the content of the speech. 声に itself is like an adverbial expression "as (physical) voice" or "aloud".
- 彼は謝罪の言葉を声に出した。
- 「ありがとう」と声に出して言いなさい。
See this question for more examples: What does "声が出る" mean?
answered 5 hours ago
narutonaruto
160k8153299
edited 5 hours ago
answered 5 hours ago
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