Debian 9: How to set English language with German Locale?












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I want to use English language with German locale settings.





Right now my system runs with the following setup (configured during installation procedure in Debian Expert Installer):




  • Language: English - English (Default)

  • Country, territory or area: other -> Europe -> Austria

  • Country to base default locale settings on: United States - en_US.UTF-8

  • Keyboard: German




My question now is:



How can I preserve English language but switch the current locale (United States - en_US.UTF-8) to desired German locale (de_DE.UTF-8)?



During installation procedure this was not possible because an error occurred ("Invalid language/locale settings combination detected").










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  • Related (duplicate?): unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/set-lc-but-not-lc-all

    – Heinzi
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:24











  • I was just looking on how to setup English with Dutch locale (same problem) and the first Google hit is this one. Long live StackExchange :-)

    – Tonny
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:55






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    Found this in "hot network questions" and now I'm interested: What are you trying to achieve? English, but with some words different specifically for German speakers? Like "I just took an Abitur exam" or "This is a train from Deutsche Bahn"?

    – Fabian Röling
    Jul 17 '18 at 14:18











  • @Fabian I suspect the use-case here is to have English messages, but German date formats etc.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 19 '18 at 17:34
















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I want to use English language with German locale settings.





Right now my system runs with the following setup (configured during installation procedure in Debian Expert Installer):




  • Language: English - English (Default)

  • Country, territory or area: other -> Europe -> Austria

  • Country to base default locale settings on: United States - en_US.UTF-8

  • Keyboard: German




My question now is:



How can I preserve English language but switch the current locale (United States - en_US.UTF-8) to desired German locale (de_DE.UTF-8)?



During installation procedure this was not possible because an error occurred ("Invalid language/locale settings combination detected").










share|improve this question

























  • Related (duplicate?): unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/set-lc-but-not-lc-all

    – Heinzi
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:24











  • I was just looking on how to setup English with Dutch locale (same problem) and the first Google hit is this one. Long live StackExchange :-)

    – Tonny
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:55






  • 1





    Found this in "hot network questions" and now I'm interested: What are you trying to achieve? English, but with some words different specifically for German speakers? Like "I just took an Abitur exam" or "This is a train from Deutsche Bahn"?

    – Fabian Röling
    Jul 17 '18 at 14:18











  • @Fabian I suspect the use-case here is to have English messages, but German date formats etc.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 19 '18 at 17:34














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I want to use English language with German locale settings.





Right now my system runs with the following setup (configured during installation procedure in Debian Expert Installer):




  • Language: English - English (Default)

  • Country, territory or area: other -> Europe -> Austria

  • Country to base default locale settings on: United States - en_US.UTF-8

  • Keyboard: German




My question now is:



How can I preserve English language but switch the current locale (United States - en_US.UTF-8) to desired German locale (de_DE.UTF-8)?



During installation procedure this was not possible because an error occurred ("Invalid language/locale settings combination detected").










share|improve this question
















I want to use English language with German locale settings.





Right now my system runs with the following setup (configured during installation procedure in Debian Expert Installer):




  • Language: English - English (Default)

  • Country, territory or area: other -> Europe -> Austria

  • Country to base default locale settings on: United States - en_US.UTF-8

  • Keyboard: German




My question now is:



How can I preserve English language but switch the current locale (United States - en_US.UTF-8) to desired German locale (de_DE.UTF-8)?



During installation procedure this was not possible because an error occurred ("Invalid language/locale settings combination detected").







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  • Related (duplicate?): unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/set-lc-but-not-lc-all

    – Heinzi
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:24











  • I was just looking on how to setup English with Dutch locale (same problem) and the first Google hit is this one. Long live StackExchange :-)

    – Tonny
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:55






  • 1





    Found this in "hot network questions" and now I'm interested: What are you trying to achieve? English, but with some words different specifically for German speakers? Like "I just took an Abitur exam" or "This is a train from Deutsche Bahn"?

    – Fabian Röling
    Jul 17 '18 at 14:18











  • @Fabian I suspect the use-case here is to have English messages, but German date formats etc.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 19 '18 at 17:34



















  • Related (duplicate?): unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/set-lc-but-not-lc-all

    – Heinzi
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:24











  • I was just looking on how to setup English with Dutch locale (same problem) and the first Google hit is this one. Long live StackExchange :-)

    – Tonny
    Jul 17 '18 at 13:55






  • 1





    Found this in "hot network questions" and now I'm interested: What are you trying to achieve? English, but with some words different specifically for German speakers? Like "I just took an Abitur exam" or "This is a train from Deutsche Bahn"?

    – Fabian Röling
    Jul 17 '18 at 14:18











  • @Fabian I suspect the use-case here is to have English messages, but German date formats etc.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 19 '18 at 17:34

















Related (duplicate?): unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/set-lc-but-not-lc-all

– Heinzi
Jul 17 '18 at 13:24





Related (duplicate?): unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15291/set-lc-but-not-lc-all

– Heinzi
Jul 17 '18 at 13:24













I was just looking on how to setup English with Dutch locale (same problem) and the first Google hit is this one. Long live StackExchange :-)

– Tonny
Jul 17 '18 at 13:55





I was just looking on how to setup English with Dutch locale (same problem) and the first Google hit is this one. Long live StackExchange :-)

– Tonny
Jul 17 '18 at 13:55




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Found this in "hot network questions" and now I'm interested: What are you trying to achieve? English, but with some words different specifically for German speakers? Like "I just took an Abitur exam" or "This is a train from Deutsche Bahn"?

– Fabian Röling
Jul 17 '18 at 14:18





Found this in "hot network questions" and now I'm interested: What are you trying to achieve? English, but with some words different specifically for German speakers? Like "I just took an Abitur exam" or "This is a train from Deutsche Bahn"?

– Fabian Röling
Jul 17 '18 at 14:18













@Fabian I suspect the use-case here is to have English messages, but German date formats etc.

– Stephen Kitt
Jul 19 '18 at 17:34





@Fabian I suspect the use-case here is to have English messages, but German date formats etc.

– Stephen Kitt
Jul 19 '18 at 17:34










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en_DE doesn’t exist as a default locale, so you can’t select English localised for German-speaking countries as a locale during installation. (Why should one use update-locale instead of directly setting LANGUAGE? describes the checks involved in choosing a locale.)



There are two approaches to achieve what you’re after.




  1. One is to create a new locale with your settings; see How to (easily) be able to use a new en_** locale? for details.


  2. The other is to set up your locale settings in a finer-grained fashion, using the various LC_ variables; for example:



    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    export LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8


    or, if you want German to be the default except for messages:



    export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8


    (and unset any other conflicting LC_ variables, in particular LC_ALL which overrides all other settings). You can check your settings using the locale program; see How does the "locale" program work? for details.








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  • Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

    – schily
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:04






  • 1





    Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:06











  • Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

    – Dave
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:46






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    @Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 11:07











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en_DE doesn’t exist as a default locale, so you can’t select English localised for German-speaking countries as a locale during installation. (Why should one use update-locale instead of directly setting LANGUAGE? describes the checks involved in choosing a locale.)



There are two approaches to achieve what you’re after.




  1. One is to create a new locale with your settings; see How to (easily) be able to use a new en_** locale? for details.


  2. The other is to set up your locale settings in a finer-grained fashion, using the various LC_ variables; for example:



    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    export LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8


    or, if you want German to be the default except for messages:



    export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8


    (and unset any other conflicting LC_ variables, in particular LC_ALL which overrides all other settings). You can check your settings using the locale program; see How does the "locale" program work? for details.








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  • Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

    – schily
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:04






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    Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:06











  • Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

    – Dave
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:46






  • 2





    @Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 11:07
















16














en_DE doesn’t exist as a default locale, so you can’t select English localised for German-speaking countries as a locale during installation. (Why should one use update-locale instead of directly setting LANGUAGE? describes the checks involved in choosing a locale.)



There are two approaches to achieve what you’re after.




  1. One is to create a new locale with your settings; see How to (easily) be able to use a new en_** locale? for details.


  2. The other is to set up your locale settings in a finer-grained fashion, using the various LC_ variables; for example:



    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    export LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8


    or, if you want German to be the default except for messages:



    export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8


    (and unset any other conflicting LC_ variables, in particular LC_ALL which overrides all other settings). You can check your settings using the locale program; see How does the "locale" program work? for details.








share|improve this answer


























  • Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

    – schily
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:04






  • 1





    Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:06











  • Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

    – Dave
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:46






  • 2





    @Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 11:07














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en_DE doesn’t exist as a default locale, so you can’t select English localised for German-speaking countries as a locale during installation. (Why should one use update-locale instead of directly setting LANGUAGE? describes the checks involved in choosing a locale.)



There are two approaches to achieve what you’re after.




  1. One is to create a new locale with your settings; see How to (easily) be able to use a new en_** locale? for details.


  2. The other is to set up your locale settings in a finer-grained fashion, using the various LC_ variables; for example:



    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    export LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8


    or, if you want German to be the default except for messages:



    export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8


    (and unset any other conflicting LC_ variables, in particular LC_ALL which overrides all other settings). You can check your settings using the locale program; see How does the "locale" program work? for details.








share|improve this answer















en_DE doesn’t exist as a default locale, so you can’t select English localised for German-speaking countries as a locale during installation. (Why should one use update-locale instead of directly setting LANGUAGE? describes the checks involved in choosing a locale.)



There are two approaches to achieve what you’re after.




  1. One is to create a new locale with your settings; see How to (easily) be able to use a new en_** locale? for details.


  2. The other is to set up your locale settings in a finer-grained fashion, using the various LC_ variables; for example:



    export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
    export LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8


    or, if you want German to be the default except for messages:



    export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
    export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8


    (and unset any other conflicting LC_ variables, in particular LC_ALL which overrides all other settings). You can check your settings using the locale program; see How does the "locale" program work? for details.









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  • Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

    – schily
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:04






  • 1





    Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:06











  • Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

    – Dave
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:46






  • 2





    @Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 11:07



















  • Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

    – schily
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:04






  • 1





    Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:06











  • Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

    – Dave
    Jul 17 '18 at 10:46






  • 2





    @Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

    – Stephen Kitt
    Jul 17 '18 at 11:07

















Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

– schily
Jul 17 '18 at 10:04





Since LANG is only a fallback, your proposal does not work in case there are other LC_* variables.

– schily
Jul 17 '18 at 10:04




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1





Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

– Stephen Kitt
Jul 17 '18 at 10:06





Well that’s the whole point of using LANG here, but I’ve clarified that, thanks.

– Stephen Kitt
Jul 17 '18 at 10:06













Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

– Dave
Jul 17 '18 at 10:46





Thanks a lot for your great help Stephen! Do I first have to generate the German locale before I can type it into /etc/default/locale? I guess right now I only have US-locale existent, so I fear de_DE.UTF-8 is not yet available on my system?

– Dave
Jul 17 '18 at 10:46




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@Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

– Stephen Kitt
Jul 17 '18 at 11:07





@Dave you’ll need to make it available, yes, either by running sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or by installing locales-all. You shouldn’t edit /etc/default/locale directly, but use update-locale instead (see the first link in the answer).

– Stephen Kitt
Jul 17 '18 at 11:07


















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